# Philly swimming pool kicks out black kids, "doesn't allow minorities" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355 "2009-07-08T19:15:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/161 "2009-07-09T15:24:54Z")
Wait a minute, **Rand Rover** is a paralegal? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/162 "2009-07-09T15:26:30Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > That’s right buddy, bear down, keep those heels dug in, let the righteous anger well up within you. > > If anyone reading this has not experienced a DtC thread before, this is how they go. DtC is clearly not a person to be reasoned with. He’s just here to shoehorn his liberal douche views into every possible situation, damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. So if we point the two of you at each other, perhaps we will create a universe-destroying black hole. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/163 "2009-07-09T15:30:51Z")
Any way to control such a phenomenon, and possibly harvest usable energy from it? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/164 "2009-07-09T15:32:28Z")
I think we cross their streams to destroy evil interlopers from other message boards. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/165 "2009-07-09T15:39:49Z")
Wait. You said crossing the streams would be bad. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/166 "2009-07-09T15:42:50Z")
But how else are we going to defeat the Stay Puft Straw Man? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/167 "2009-07-09T15:43:10Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > So if we point the two of you at each other, perhaps we will create a universe-destroying black hole. Yes, that could happen. I’m the anti-DtC because I can reason through a situation, consider alternative viewpoints, and withhold judgement until the facts are in. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/168 "2009-07-09T15:46:19Z")
I haven’t been a member of that pool club for very long, but I’ve seen shit that would turn you white! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/169 "2009-07-09T15:48:14Z")
> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > Wait a minute, **Rand Rover** is a paralegal? That’s it. Maw, get the young ‘uns into the cellar! A storm’s a’brewin’! ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/170 "2009-07-09T15:49:59Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yes, that could happen. I’m the anti-DtC because I can reason through a situation, consider alternative viewpoints, and withhold judgement until the facts are in. I’m going to need a cite for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/171 "2009-07-09T15:51:11Z")
No, no, he can. He just chooses not to. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/172 "2009-07-09T15:53:31Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yes, that could happen. I’m the anti-DtC because I can reason through a situation, consider alternative viewpoints, and withhold judgement until the facts are in. For example, [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11320178&postcount=42), where your careful reasoning, consideration of alternative viewpoints, and withholding of judgment really shine through. And it’s great that you withheld your judgment until “the facts were in.” Of course, you were totally, utterly wrong, mainly because you, erm, shot your mouth off before you bothered to check the relevant law in this case, but, hey! When **Dio** does that, it’s wrong because he’s chained to his ideology. When you do it, it’s because, um, it’s usually here that you run out of arguments and start profaning posters’ wives. It’s this _politeness_ that just makes you, you. Don’t ever change, sweetie! ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/173 "2009-07-09T15:54:15Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > No, no, he can. He just chooses not to. Nimble little minx. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/174 "2009-07-09T15:56:36Z")
Well, in this very thread I modified a rant based on input from the Dukester. That should show my good faith and reasonableness. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/175 "2009-07-09T15:56:38Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > When you do it, it’s because, um, it’s usually here that you run out of arguments and start profaning posters’ wives. It’s this _politeness_ that just makes you, you. Don’t ever change, sweetie! It’s a pretty sad reflection on the rules where “fuck you” isn’t allowed, but insulting someone’s wife is. It’s also a pretty sad reflection on those of us who, despite seeing it a mile off, have allowed this stain to make the thread about him **yet again**. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/176 "2009-07-09T15:59:24Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > While **RR** can annoy the \*\*\* out of me (and many others, it would seem) on a regular basis, I think his construction here was on target: “There are many people under the (mis-)apprehension that discrimination in a private club is illegal – or if it is not under present law, it should be.” That strikes me as a valid observation, properly expressed in the sentence you quoted. I disagree. Rand’s original comment railed against those who believed that it IS illegal for private groups to descriminate based upon race. “Go take a civics course,” he stated or words to that effect. But you can perfectly understand the law and still believe that it SHOULD BE illegal. There’s nothing contradictory or stupid about that opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/177 "2009-07-09T15:59:48Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Well, in this very thread I modified a rant based on input from the Dukester. That should show my good faith and reasonableness. Great! Maybe, next time, profaning my wife is off limits. Small steps! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/178 "2009-07-09T16:03:18Z")
For the record, nowhere in this thread have I said the club did anything illegal. I haven’t even said they’d be civilly liable. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/179 "2009-07-09T16:08:30Z")
Duke, I guess you missed the post where I said that that rant didn’t apply to anyone truly contemplating whether the pool is a PA or PC. Villa, I can’t help it that I’m popular and people want to talk to me and about me. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355/180 "2009-07-09T16:17:55Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Duke, I guess you missed the post where I said that that rant didn’t apply to anyone truly contemplating whether the pool is a PA or PC. Seeing as this is the entirety of your first post… > [@](#): > > I can’t believe some of you think that the club’s actions should be illegal (and didn’t even know they weren’t illegal until it was pointed out to you). Jesus christ. Take a goddamn civics course already. > > And, just to be (more of) a dick, I will not include the standard missive re: “of course I disagree with the club’s actions.” If anyone thinks the first paragraph of this post has any bearing on how I feel about the club’s actions then that person is an idiot and I won’t cater to their stupidity. …I don’t exactly see anything there about “anyone truly contemplating whether the pool is a PA or a PC.” It was just patronizing, misguided ranting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-swimming-pool-kicks-out-black-kids-doesnt-allow-minorities/502355.md?page=10)