# Philosophical questions too moronic for GD

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 16, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940 "2014-01-16T03:54:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![PBear42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PBear42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PBear42)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940/41 "2014-01-18T10:37:18Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> IIRC, there was some old-time (say, 1700s?) hellfire and brimstone type who wrote about the great joy he would take in heaven, listening to the screams of the damned in hell. Nice chap. :eek:

What you’re recalling, I’m pretty sure, is Thomas Aquinas, 13th rather than 18th century. Specifically, his _Summa Theologica_, Third Part, Supplement, Question XCIV, “Of the Relations of the Saints Towards the Damned,” First Article, "Whether the Blessed in Heaven Will See the Sufferings of the Damned.” In which he claimed:

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> In order that nothing may be wanting to the felicity of the blessed spirits in heaven, a perfect view is granted to them of the tortures of the damned.

In fairness, I don’t think many modern Christians hold to this view. And I’m an atheist.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940/42 "2014-01-18T12:16:03Z")

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We’re superior beings, who can’t be assimilated to the animal kingdom. So, if it worked for Adam and Eve, why has the rest of mankind had to struggle with birth and growing up, just like any other mammal? And why doesn’t “the divine” grant an individual the right to choose whether or not s/he wants to be part of this world?

Too moronic? Luckily someone started this thread just for questions like that.

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**Author:** ![ladysorrowfree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@ladysorrowfree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladysorrowfree)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940/43 "2014-01-19T06:13:08Z")

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One must consider the case of those who don’t WANT to go to Heaven.

“Well, Adolf…haven’t heard from you in a long time. The Pearly Gates are right over there, wide open, but I have to tell you something; it’s full of Jews, Gypsies, gays and other random non-Aryans. About six million of them will be expecting a serious apology, and you’ll have to love them all as your brothers and sisters. Forever. Are you up for that?”

“Is there someplace else I can go instead?”

“Well, there’s really only one alternative.”

You get the idea.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940/44 "2014-01-20T10:25:58Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> “Heard.” True anecdote? Or, cite?

This view was expressed directly to me and others on the BELIEF-L discussion list sometime in the first half of the 1990s. I’d be surprised if it’s findable on the internet but who knows.

There were two specific WBC participants, which I could name but would prefer not to flag in case of Google search; I can’t remember which of the two explicitly stated that position but it was one of them. It will surprise no one that they were eventually banned, but of course not before calling us all “Nazis” and using all variety of other colorful language.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philosophical-questions-too-moronic-for-gd/678940/45 "2014-01-20T15:10:24Z")

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Why do terrorists never target telemarketers?

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