# Phlosphr, you are a fucking idiot (re: home birth)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786 "2011-06-17T02:43:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786/601 "2011-07-12T20:56:48Z")

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> [@Implicit](#):
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> Not bullshit, I quoted directly from the article, did you read it? They paid nothing to the midwife, they bartered carpentry for her services.

I’m sorry, I was saying that the parents themselves were giving a bullshit reason. I wasn’t calling you a liar.

I did fail to register the carpentry barter. That said, I still think the cost factor is a pretty flimsy reason. In Massachusetts, where I live and work in healthcare and where the story takes place, it’s very very easy to have a baby at low or no cost in a hospital. I also don’t think it’s all that difficult to get your connector insurance premiums lowered if they truly could not afford the premium.

I think any 41-year-old woman who has had a C-section before is making a stupid, stupid decision if she decides to let a few hundred bucks sway her decision like that.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786/602 "2011-07-13T19:26:37Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> So basically, it doesn’t matter what information is provided, people are just going to stubbornly believe whatever they want. So much for fighting ignorance… I tried.

Did you read the cite I posted? The one discussing the recent meta-study showing worse outcomes for home-birthed babies? Are you ready to admit that home birth is worse for babies than hospital birth, or do you wish to remain ignorant?

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**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786/603 "2011-07-14T21:10:52Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You responded to a month-old post and that’s all you’ve got? …

No, it’s just all I need. Carry on, dumb asshole.

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