# Phlosphr, you are a fucking idiot (re: home birth) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786 "2011-06-17T02:43:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 144
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786/144 "2011-06-17T17:41:57Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Pbbth, you seem to be incapable of making an actual argument , but you are getting close. Please provide a link to the thread where you got those quotes, and I’ll respond to your almost-argument later. [Here’s one of them](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=553865&highlight=choose), but I’m not linking to pretty much every thread you’ve ever posted. In just searching under your username and the word choice or choose it [brought up some pretty interesting stuff.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=497453&highlight=home+birth)[This is the stuff I left out last time:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580197&highlight=choice) > [@Any last-minute advice for a third-trimester preggo?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-last-minute-advice-for-a-third-trimester-preggo/477131/43): > > **I fully and readily admit that I have not investigated the risks and benefits of home birth.** However, I have to believe that there are some situations that absolutely require a hospital… > [@McDonald's to Hourly Workers; Drop Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-to-hourly-workers-drop-dead/555602/96): > > **The problem here is that you decide whether a person is in a class called “poor people,” and if they are, then you second-guess every one of their decisions. If they make a decision that you wouldn’t have made, then you think they are being taken advantage of. But that’s not the case. People have different priorities and decision matrices.** Just because you wouldn’t have bought this insurance doesn’t mean people that do are getting ripped off. They are humans too–they made their decision. I get it, you feel very strongly about the home birthing process being too dangerous to be considered, but according to pretty much every thread you’ve ever posted in (that wasn’t just pot shots at people anyway) you believe that people should be able to say, do, and buy pretty much whatever they like because you believe that individual knows what is best for themselves. You even admitted in the last thread where you discussed this issue that you had done no research and this is just your gut instinct telling you home births are too dangerous. I’m not even saying you’re wrong about that, just that I was surprised that someone who is so focused on choice being so important and very adamant about the rights of individuals is reacting in such a way to the personal choices of others. If you feel like choice is important but in situations like this the welfare of the people involved is more important just _say that_ instead of demanding to be proven a hypocrite and hurling around insults towards people you don’t know and will never meet. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phlosphr-you-are-a-fucking-idiot-re-home-birth/585786)._