# Phrases/terms that aggravate the hell out of you

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 26, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894 "2020-10-26T02:04:45Z")\
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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> the H2

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> “shipping” as in “relationshipping”

Sure, these are new ones, alright.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> - using
> - “processEEEEEEEZZZZ” - just go back to pronouncing it how you used to, please

I realize that I am way beyond the pale here, but I am still not comfortable with “process” having been verbed. Most often it bothers me when I hear them speak of the arrestee being processed, things like that. I feel that “process” is a noun and the thing that you do calls for a more specific verb or expression.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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Back in the 1950s the department in corporations and governments that managed all those punch cards was called “Data Processing”. What work they they did was also called “Data Processing”.

What did they do to all that the data? They will process some tomorrow, they are processing some right now, and they did process some yesterday. That was about 70 years ago as mainstream language.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/244 "2020-11-07T23:09:58Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> > [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > the H2
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> > [@Acsenray](#):
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> > “shipping” as in “relationshipping”
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> Sure, these are new ones, alright.

Color me confused. I didn’t suggest H2s are new. Neither are women nicknamed named Muffy. But they still exist in good quantity.

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> I wish I could find again the book I read some years ago, in which a dialectician from the Dictionary of American Regional English project argued that American English was evolving a new standard second-person plural pronoun. He figured it would be _you guys_ , which has a national usage range. Seems to me though that _y’all_ could fill that role, as well, given how it’s spread out of the South.

I use “you guys” all the time. I’ve never used “y’all.” It just seems so Southern to me, and I’m not Southern. It feels very slightly like cultural appropriation…of a culture that I don’t feel sympatico with.

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I use “you guys” all the time.

That can become a new standard in the English Speaking World, but only if it’s intonated like it is in The Goonies…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/A1kFkmEMLrY/maxresdefault.jpg "The Goonies - Sloth - Hey You Guys") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1kFkmEMLrY)

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Perfect!

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Oh, and everything that is released or issued “drops.” Ugh. Even worse, if a song drops and someone likes it, then it “slaps.” Every. Damn. Time.

And, “I fuck with that” as a positive instead of negative.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/249 "2020-11-08T23:12:15Z")

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“Literally.” Like when someone says, “They literally flushed the rule book down the toilet.”

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By the end of the decade, “literally” will be officially recognized as a contronym.

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A what - a Hume Cronyn?

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That’s going to belong in the “Jokes that now need explanation” thread soon 😜

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I need it now, please?

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Oh, and everything that is released or issued “drops.”

Yeah, what’s up with this? What does “drop” indicate that being “released” doesn’t? I feel like I’m missing some distinction that everybody else knows.

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As a joke, it’s just a reference to the odd word of “contranym”, not a word commonly encountered… And using the deceased actor Hume Cronyn’s name as hilarious counterpoint.

Hume Cronyn was an old man when I was a kid, so the number of people that recognize him have to be dwindling.

(Note:. I didn’t say it was a GOOD joke…)

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‘Butthurt’ sounds like a 5th grade insult, but I think that’s the point. The person with ‘it’ is acting like an 11 year old. A sophisticated insult doesn’t do the offending activity justice.

‘Cry baby’ doesn’t cut it.

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> [@Kron](#):
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> Hume Cronyn was an old man when I was a kid, so the number of people that recognize him have to be dwindling.

{{Sigh}} Yes, I’m familiar with his work.

(As an aside, his great-uncle at one point was the Leader of the Opposition in Canada, and later an Irish MP.

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> (Note:. I didn’t say it was a GOOD joke…)

Er, yes, yes, that was apparent. ☺

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I realize that I am way beyond the pale here, but I am still not comfortable with “process” having been verbed. Most often it bothers me when I hear them speak of the arrestee being processed, things like that. I feel that “process” is a noun and the thing that you do calls for a more specific verb or expression

I partly agree with you, but “process” is indeed a legitimate verb as well as a noun and has been for a long time. But I’m with you regarding its use to avoid specificity, as in the example you cited. In your example it’s supposed to mean “going through the usual routine processes”, but without having to specify what those “processes” are. One charming example of that non-specificity is “processed cheese”, which is really a euphemism for “sort of like cheese, but not really”. In fact, so much not really like cheese that over the long term all the artificial goop can kill you, whereas real cheese is actually quite healthy. What a difference a little adjectified verb can make! 🙂

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> One charming example of that non-specificity is “processed cheese”, which is really a euphemism for “sort of like cheese, but not really”. In fact, so much not really like cheese that over the long term all the artificial goop can kill you, whereas real cheese is actually quite healthy. What a difference a little adjectified verb can make!

Im not sure what you mean by this. Making processed cheese is a fairly simple and straightforward process. You get actual cheese, grate and melt it, and then mix in some additives that affect its shelf-life and texture, making it smoother and more easily sliceable, shreddable, and meltable. It’s not some arcane procedure that produces something horrific.

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> **[Velveeta Cheese – It’s Not Real Food | MagicKitchen.com Blog](https://blog.magickitchen.com/2014/08/08/velveeta-cheese-its-not-real-food/)**
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> If you’re looking over your shopping list before heading to the store and you’ve got Velveeta Cheese circled and highlighted as a must-have item, cross it off your list right now. It’s not real cheese, and it’s not even real food. But, but, but…”I...

[Foods to Avoid. The following foods are bad for your heart.](https://www.adventhealthcardiovascularinstitute.com/sites/default/files/2019-10/19-CARDIAC-09542_-Heart_Failure_Treatment.pdf)

- Process cheeses such as Cheese Whiz, Velveeta® and queso dip
- “Singles” slices and string cheese

I remember attending an employee health seminar once where a doctor was talking about processed cheese (he happened to use Velveeta as an example) and describing some of the horrifying emergency resuscitation procedures that are performed in the event of a major heart attack. He had a few exhibits on hand, including a syringe about the size of a horse’s leg (though intracardiac adrenaline injection is rarely done these days, but still …).

We’re really off the topic of language here, but I’ll just add that I consume processed cheese myself, but only in very limited amounts, pretty much only on hamburgers which I have only quite rarely. It all works out because the “singles” slices are so loaded with preservatives and artificial crap that they keep almost forever. But I’m not on any kind of health-food crusade here. 🙂

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