# Phrases/terms that aggravate the hell out of you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894 "2020-10-26T02:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/682 "2021-01-17T20:36:26Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > > [@needscoffee](#): > > > > Good rule of thumb: if you’re going to use the word “whom”, unless you’re an English teacher, don’t. 9 times out of 10, it’s wrong. Even here on the Dope. > > Holy goalie this. > Possibly my biggest word peeve of > all > fucking > time. > Indeed, yeah - nine times out of ten “whom” will get barfed out in a doltish show of ignorant pretension. > ETA - whoMever is extra bothersome. Probably the same people who say things like: _Turn in your completed forms to Mr. X or myself._ ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/683 "2021-01-17T20:38:05Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > > [@panache45](#): > > > > My clothes need washed. > > That’s two whole words that can be omitted. You can have my lazy speech patterns when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers. One thing I’ve learned from this thread is… don’t be lazy, don’t be trendy. Classic language (subject-verb-object) means clearer communication. A close cousin to “needs washed” is a phrase someone just used in the mini-rants thread: “I have a MASSIVE sad about this.” Now, they were talking about the Girl Scouts discontinuing the best cookie ever, so I understand. But “I have a sad” is pretty close to “I can has cheezburger?” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/684 "2021-01-17T20:40:31Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Interesting - never heard of such an omission. > Wonder how prevalent it is. I knew one person who spoke that way, a HS classmate that I, uh, got to know really well. She seemed to be an outlier in that respect, because I never heard anyone else in the area use that ellipsis. But English is a sloppy language when spoken. For instance, the indicative subordinative conjunction (that, who, etc) is quite frequently dropped. But I suspect other languages tend to drop elements in speech when the omission does not severely impair clarity. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/685 "2021-01-17T20:41:44Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > > [@panache45](#): > > > > Leaving out “to be”, as in: > > > > > My clothes need washed. > > > [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > > > That’s two whole words that can be omitted. You can have my lazy speech patterns when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers. Which, given that I’m just as lazy when it comes to exercising as I am with my speaking, means you probably won’t have to wait that long. > > Interesting - never heard of such an omission. > Wonder how prevalent it is. It’s all but universal standard usage in parts of the USA and all but unheard of in the rest of the USA. IIRC the “needs washed” part is sorta centered on IN, OH, & PA. A little Googling will show you plenty of maps; it’s a well-studied regionalism. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/686 "2021-01-17T20:49:49Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > IIRC the “needs washed” part is sorta centered on IN, OH, & PA. A little Googling will show you plenty of maps; it’s a well-studied regionalism. I remember (badly) in an episode of _Thirtysomething_, one character remarked that another one must be from a specific east coast region for using the phrase “She just wanted walked home.” ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/687 "2021-01-17T21:12:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > IIRC the “needs washed” part is sorta centered on IN, OH, & PA. Would it be “needs warshed” in some of those spots, then? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/688 "2021-01-17T21:24:49Z")
Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/689 "2021-01-18T17:13:20Z")
> [@Scarlax](#): > > Coup de grace (coo-de-GRAH) There is a different pronunciation for that? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/690 "2021-01-18T17:38:08Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > > [@Scarlax](#): > > > > Coup de grace (coo-de-GRAH) > > There is a different pronunciation for that? I tend to go with _coo-de-GRAHSS_, myself, as I haven’t been persuaded that the “ce” construction can legitimately be silent. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/691 "2021-01-18T18:21:31Z")
> [@Scarlax](#): > > How about pronouncing fewer letters in order to sound more sophisticated. > > Concierge (con-see-AIR) > Bancorp (bank-core) > Coup de grace (coo-de-GRAH) > > Others? I was thinking that at first this would be uniquely French to American English, but Bancorp is a mistake in assuming it is bank corps rather than a contracted form of bank corporation. > [@Kron](#): > > > [@Scarlax](#): > > > > Coup de grace (coo-de-GRAH) > > There is a different pronunciation for that? I _think_ that what @Scarlax meant was … That Americans pronounce > Concierge (con-see-AIR) > Coup de grace (coo-de-GRAH) sorta kinda near actual French. Because using the French-inspired pronunciations is thought to be sophisticated and pretentious. Despite the fact these words have been in English for dozens, if not hundreds of years now. So then we come to “bancorp”. That’s some 1960s Mad Men contrivance that’s simply a portmanteau of “bank corporation” or “banking corporation.” So should be pronounced as if spelled “Bankorp”. i.e. in pidgin homebrew phonetics “BANK orp” or “BANK korp” or maybe even “BAN korp” Instead people are mistakenly pronouncing this 100% American made up garbage term in oh so faux French as “Ban cor”. Being simultaneously very sophisticated and also very ignorantly wrong. Or at least that's how I took it. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/692 "2021-01-18T20:06:02Z")
“Pls.” Please stop doing this. Assuming that you do not have limited use of hour hands because you are disabled in some way, you are able to operate a keyboard to produce the entire word “please.” I suppose it was somewhat understandable back in the days before smart phones, when you had to press a key multiple times to get one letter. But even then, it was annoying. But now, with virtual keyboards with autocomplete on every keyboard, there’s no excuse. There is especially no excuse for it when you’re sitting in front of a computer with an actual keyboard. It’s simply a stupid thing intended to show that you are so, so busy that you cannot even spare the time to type those extra three letters. It’s bullshit. And, while we’re at it, the same applies to “ppl.” If I get another email saying something like “ok, ppl, we’re going to be onboarding a new department, so pls be ready,” I may have a nervous breakdown. And, parenthetically, if you use the non-word “y’all” in that same email, I will probably stroke out and die. Just stop. Pls. ---
**Author:** ![Tierce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@Tierce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tierce)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/693 "2021-01-18T22:19:32Z")
K. (yes, I know someone who does that.) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/694 "2021-01-18T22:41:22Z")
thx. (plus characters…) ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/695 "2021-01-18T22:50:40Z")
Between you and I. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/696 "2021-01-19T00:26:12Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Between you and I.  Obv, this should be “Between U & I”. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/697 "2021-01-19T00:49:03Z")
Is that where you find the C & H? ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/698 "2021-01-19T01:26:36Z")
Nope. That’s in Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/699 "2021-01-19T01:29:47Z")
I have seen both of those right here, which is none of those 4 places. ---
**Author:** ![cincinnatus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cincinnatus/32/7990_2.png) [@cincinnatus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/700 "2021-01-19T01:38:58Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Just to be clear, I wasn’t suggesting you were a goof. By the way, I will leave it to one of our Canadian dopers to explain why you should not use this word good up north, say Toronto and north. I found out the hard way, but survived because of a nice Canadian woodsman. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894/701 "2021-01-19T02:42:42Z")
Yes, in certain circles in Canada, calling someone a « goof » is asking for a punch in the mouth. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phrases-terms-that-aggravate-the-hell-out-of-you/923894.md?page=36)