# Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - Does anybody care? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 5, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155 "2016-09-05T23:58:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/121 "2016-09-08T04:31:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No. How could my comment about a thread in 2009 possibly be construed as an analysis of what happened here in this thread? > > I was, in fact, disappointed in 2009 in the negative comments from some conservatives, but in my view the contrast between a very few negative comments and many conservatives joining in praise of Senator Kennedy back then, and the current thread’s near unanimity from liberals – is striking. False equivalency. Kennedy was a patriot and truly dedicated to the betterment of the country. Schlafly was a cunt. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/122 "2016-09-08T04:57:04Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Then you appear left with a vague suggestion but no evidence. > > Anyway, if the board still.exists when Hillary Clinton dies, I’m sure every conservative in America will choose to take the high road. > > Every. Single. One. I don’t know that… but I was confining my remarks to observations about liberals and conservatives here. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/123 "2016-09-08T05:00:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > False equivalency. Kennedy was a patriot and truly dedicated to the betterment of the country. Schlafly was a cunt. Kennedy was dedicated to what he thought was the betterment of the country, but while he was sincere, he was mistaken, and he hurt much more than he helped. Schlafly was dedicated to what she thought was the betterment of the country, and while she was sincere, she was also mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/124 "2016-09-08T05:36:42Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > False equivalency. Kennedy was a patriot and truly dedicated to the betterment of the country. Schlafly was a cunt. Cunts are admirable. Actually, come to think of it, assholes have their uses and benefits too. Schlafly was a piece of shit. She’s doing more good fertilizing the ground above her grave than she ever did in her life. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/125 "2016-09-08T05:55:26Z")
Ted Kennedy is a very poor analog to Schlafly, IMO. I would think somebody like Michael Moore makes a much better comparison, and when he dies, I’ll be interested to see what tributes he gets from the SDMB conservatives for his sincerity. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/126 "2016-09-08T06:39:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > … Schlafly was a cunt. Given her vitriolic and deeply paranoid opposition to the ERA, based on her biblical droolery, I would say that this is in fact a fair assessment: it appears that her opinion of women in general would effectively reduce them to the part that makes babies plus a life-support system, so, being a woman, one would have to assume that that was how she viewed herself. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/127 "2016-09-08T11:29:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Kennedy was dedicated to what he thought was the betterment of the country, but while he was sincere, he was mistaken, and he hurt much more than he helped. > > Schlafly was dedicated to what she thought was the betterment of the country, and while she was sincere, she was also mistaken. You are only measuring certain factors, leading to a finding of equivalency that doesn’t exist. There are probably well over three ways that a brick of gold and a brick of mud could be measured and found equivalent. This doesn’t mean they are of equal value. You can be dedicated, sincere, and mistaken because you are an outspoken idiot, or because you are wrong in the way that reasonable people can be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/128 "2016-09-08T12:52:27Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Ted Kennedy is a very poor analog to Schlafly, IMO. I would think somebody like Michael Moore makes a much better comparison, and when he dies, I’ll be interested to see what tributes he gets from the SDMB conservatives for his sincerity. I can tell you right now that if Moore’s obituary were to appear in tomorrow’s headlines, I would not rejoice. I would not praise his sincerity, but I’d certainly acknowledge his deep commitment to what he thought was right, and his willingness to push strongly for the underdog against the entrenched powers. I think his zeal for the result led him to be willing to shade the lines of accuracy, but I don’t believe his motives were anything but a desire to help those on society’s lower rungs from being stepped on too much. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/129 "2016-09-08T12:56:06Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Schlafly was a piece of shit. She’s doing more good fertilizing the ground above her grave than she ever did in her life. So she was a monster, an asshole, and a piece of shit, “especially because of her name-calling”? But there’s no hypocrisy involved. Oooooookay… Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/130 "2016-09-08T14:30:11Z")
She had all the characteristics of a rattlesnake, but she lacked the warmth. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/131 "2016-09-08T21:30:42Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So she was a monster, an asshole, and a piece of shit, “especially because of her name-calling”? But there’s no hypocrisy involved. Oooooookay… Dealt with already. Try to keep up. Also, I never said she was a monster solely because she was a name-caller, so you fail the logic test too. As a matter of fact… Do you even have a point? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/132 "2016-09-08T22:22:23Z")
Someone who I personally knew and thoroughly detested died. I had passing acquaintance with the family, and expressed condolence. I’m the only persoh who knows I’m fibbing, but it does me no harm and might lighten their grief, however slightly. Very definition of a “white lie”. Its close, but kind is more important than honest. But someone who determinedly sets out to be a public figure, to be a voice heard above others has no such entitlement. She wasn’t drafted, she volunteered, she was insistent. She had a right to speech, even cruel and harmful speech, them’s the rules. She is not entitled to respectful attention, and derision is nothing more than her due, living or dead. And may her Hellbound Train run right on time. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/133 "2016-09-08T22:27:36Z")
She likely increased the net misery in the world, and helped promulgate the vapidly stupid conservative ideology that is infecting the world today, with Trump as the head of that rancid pimple. It’s like Scalia, I’m not happy that anyone is dead, I am however glad that they can no longer do damage. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/134 "2016-09-08T22:28:06Z")
Of the dead, speak nothing but good. She’s dead. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/135 "2016-09-08T22:30:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And may her Hellbound Train run right on time. I’m sure Satan has a kitchen that she can toil in for eternity. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/136 "2016-09-08T22:50:10Z")
But that would make her happy…unless she’s toiling away in the kitchen where a female version of Satan is in charge. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/137 "2016-09-08T22:54:47Z")
Zombie porno with J. Edgar Hoover and Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/138 "2016-09-08T22:58:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t recall the instance. Do you? > > You don’t appear to know what “hypocrisy,” means. > > If I were accusing liberals of espousing one behavior and then evincing another, THAT would be an accusation of hypocrisy. > > Here, I’m suggesting that liberals (on this board) are simply different than conservatives (on this board). I don’t know of any liberals here who have suggested that it’s wrong to speak ill of the recently deceased. There’s no hypocrisy here, so far as I can see. > > But there is a willingness on the part of liberals here to savagely gloat over a dead conservative political figure, and – so far as I recall – no real corresponding willingness on the part of conservatives here. I seem to recall a few threads on Ted Kennedy. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/139 "2016-09-08T23:02:33Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Zombie porno with J. Edgar Hoover and Nixon. According to Rule 34, someone will now take it upon themselves to create that. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155/140 "2016-09-08T23:06:59Z")
Fuck, I posted that about Kennedy before I read the other posts. Dammit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92-does-anybody-care/765155.md?page=8)