# Picard is such a wimp **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576 "2010-06-02T00:19:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/21 "2010-06-03T00:09:52Z")
> [@Illuminatiprimus](#): > > \ > > Oh come on! Worf had just been quantum shifted from a parallel timeline and was suddenly in front of a completely different console he wasn’t familiar with, in a combat situation no less. It would be like taking your PC out of your hands and giving you a Mac and saying “Set up a new wireless network on this but keep the printer separate - you’ve got five seconds” whilst pointing a gun at you. > > Sadly I’ve just realised again that I’m way too much of a Trek geek… ☹ Exactly! He may have just had a kid with Deanna Troi, too. Fly your Star Trek geek flag proudly! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/22 "2010-06-03T00:31:39Z")
> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#): > > Really? I must have watched a version of ST:TOS in a parallel universe then. Many of these episodes ended with Kirk defeating the baddie in hand to hand combat and usually getting his shirt torn in the process. It is a standing joke in our house whenever we re-watch a classic episode. That was a well known and long running joke. It sort of went along the lines of ripped shirt Kirk having augmented strength - sort of like angry Doctor Banner. You tear the shirt, his strength climbs exponentially. Aaaaahhhh! Puny Klingons! Kirk SMASH! ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/23 "2010-06-03T00:37:03Z")
Mmmm… first 2 seasons Kirk in a ripped shirt…Mmmmmm… And Picard isn’t a wimp, not really. But he is not from the same mold as Kirk the Action Figure. Picard’s more Ken to Kirk’s GI Joe. ---
**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/24 "2010-06-03T00:43:40Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Picard had his bad-ass moments - didn’t he take out the whole group of bandits that were trying to steal his ship with just his saddle? > > The thing about Picard is that he was a product of his times just like Kirk - Kirk was from the ass-kicking, psychedelic, free-love sixties, and Picard was from the touchy-feely, uber-PC eighties. Kirk was the man. He’d sail into orbit, kick a bunch of ass, bang your green women, then skip town when the locals got uppity. I’m in the “Picard is a wimp” camp. Has he ever gotten laid while going where no man has gone before? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/25 "2010-06-03T00:53:43Z")
Picard was gettin’ it on all the time - possibly more than Kirk. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/26 "2010-06-03T01:36:11Z")
I will say that Picard in his bathrobe is not the greatest visual around. And what is IT with him and Dr Crusher? Did they hook up eventually or what? She bugs me. (sorry, that’s another thread). ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/27 "2010-06-03T02:04:18Z")
Y’all must have missed the episode where Picard takes this alternate timeline [![](http://www.ministryofart.se/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/patrick_stewart_as_oberon.jpg) ](http://www.ministryofart.se/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/patrick_stewart_as_oberon.jpg) 400 quatloos on the newcomer! ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/28 "2010-06-03T02:12:41Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > I will say that Picard in his bathrobe is not the greatest visual around. And what is IT with him and Dr Crusher? Did they hook up eventually or what? She bugs me. (sorry, that’s another thread). There was one episode where the 2 of them had impants stuck in there heads by some paranoid locals to learn the truth about their (the locals) enemies. They escaped and had a kind of mind-meld thingy while they were on the run. It was revealed that she’d been married to Picards best friend, he’d always secretly loved her, she had some feelings too, but they decided not to do anything about it [vomitsmile/]. In the final episode, it’s shown in the future that they had a thing after the main timeline of TNG, and were now an ex couple. Pining as it were. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/29 "2010-06-03T02:16:02Z")
I saw that one. I was hoping that they would DO something already, finally. Same with Troi and Reicher. Stupid 80s show–they were more daring in the 60s! And I don’t believe Troi and Worf for a New York minute. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/30 "2010-06-03T02:17:19Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Y’all must have missed the episode where Picard takes this alternate timeline > > [http://www.ministryofart.se/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/patrick\_stewart\_as\_oberon.jpg](http://www.ministryofart.se/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/patrick_stewart_as_oberon.jpg) > 400 quatloos on the newcomer! My EYES! :eek: (he does have a nice physique, but the Xanadu hair has got to go). ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/31 "2010-06-03T02:44:25Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > And I don’t believe Troi and Worf for a New York minute. Well, she made Riker shave in that one sucky movie, so I’m right there with ya on the not doin’ Worf thing. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/32 "2010-06-03T04:21:21Z")
Picard got it on several times. I bet Riker beats them all in that department though. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/33 "2010-06-03T04:40:29Z")
Picard had his moments. One of my favorites is when he’s on the Klingon home world. Some Klingons jump him and he fights them off. I think that’s the one where he tries to help Worf remove the traitor dishonor to his family. In Season 1, they tried to portray Picard as a real military commander. Those guys aren’t expected to go on hazardous missions and risk danger. Riker was supposed to do that stuff. But, that made Picard kind of dull in S1. The writers learned he needed to be a man of action. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/34 "2010-06-03T04:45:53Z")
> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#): > > Really? I must have watched a version of ST:TOS in a parallel universe then. Many of these episodes ended with Kirk defeating the baddie in hand to hand combat and usually getting his shirt torn in the process. It is a standing joke in our house whenever we re-watch a classic episode. True. But I think that’s more of the fact that everyone else was really bad. How often do you think that double fist technique would work in real life? ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/35 "2010-06-03T09:28:53Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Exactly! He may have just had a kid with Deanna Troi, too. > > Fly your Star Trek geek flag proudly! 😃 No might about it, Troi said they had two children (Eric Christopher and Shanara). Oh god, I even remember their names… > [@eleanorigby](#): > > And I don’t believe Troi and Worf for a New York minute. Well it kind of depends on what angle you look at it. In the normal storyline they don’t get much past the dating stage, in the episode where Worf jumps around parallel timelines he ends up in one where he and Troi are married and have children, in the future depicted in the show’s finale it was implied Troi and Worf had had some kind of proper relationship and that this was a source of tension between him and Riker (but in that future she was dead so we don’t know the details). So whether or not you want to believe it in the minds of (some of) the writers it was clearly going on. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/36 "2010-06-03T13:12:24Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > True. But I think that’s more of the fact that everyone else was really bad. How often do you think that double fist technique would work in real life? Never mind the punching. The worst(best?) fight he ever had was against the Gorn, what with the throwing of the paper-maché rocks and the lighting of the powder gun (why didn’t it blow up in his face?) Truly hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/37 "2010-06-03T14:20:31Z")
There can be only one! ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/38 "2010-06-03T15:27:54Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Kirk isn’t what you would call a master of hand to hand combat either. Well obviously you’re forgetting about his two secret weapons: the two-handed back chop, and the over the head leg flip. Don’t mess wit da Shat. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/39 "2010-06-03T17:08:59Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Never mind the punching. The worst(best?) fight he ever had was against the Gorn, what with the throwing of the paper-maché rocks and the lighting of the powder gun (why didn’t it blow up in his face?) > > Truly hilarious. I believe myth busters actually did that one. It didn’t work for them ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576/40 "2010-06-03T21:18:15Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > Picard is such a wimp That’s [_Sir_ Wimp,](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10217872.stm) to you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/picard-is-such-a-wimp/541576.md?page=3)