# Pick your modern day League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

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**Created:** [September 5, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-modern-day-league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen/668036 "2013-09-05T00:09:35Z")\
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> [@Werekoala](#):
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> [Ding Chavez](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domingo_Chavez)

I think I’d rather have John Kelly, myself.

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> [@bump](#):
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> I think I’d rather have John Kelly, myself.

Oh, for sure, but he doesn’t fit the criteria, either.

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Adding in TV, then Walter Bishop makes the cut - yay!

And thanks to the BBC, Sherlock Holmes can be added as well.

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Let me try one with TV shows from the 00’s with the added bonus of not using fantasy / Sci-fi shows.

[Michael Scofield (Prison Break)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scofield) - The Leader. No matter how bleak the situation, he’ll always come up with a plan.

[Omar Little](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Little) (The wire) - The Gunsmith. A tough, street-smart criminal who can kill just about anybody.

[Chloe O’Brian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloe_O'Brian) (24) - The Computer Expert. Good with computers and used to high stress situations. 'Nuff said.

[Walter White (Breaking Bad)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_White_(Breaking_Bad)) - The Science Expert. Whenever you need anything chemistry-related, from explosions to poisons, he’s your man.

[Veronica Mars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_Mars_(character)) (Veronica Mars) - The Detective. Don’t be fooled by her youth… her brains and expertise acquired at a very young age will outsmart any villain.  
Together they are forced to band to stop terrorist Abu Nazir (Homeland)from launching a nuclear attack over the US. Tony Soprano may be involved with either side at some point.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-modern-day-league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen/668036/45 "2013-09-06T17:20:51Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> Let me try one with TV shows from the 00’s with the added bonus of not using fantasy / Sci-fi shows.
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> [Michael Scofield (Prison Break)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scofield) - The Leader. No matter how bleak the situation, he’ll always come up with a plan.
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> [Omar Little](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Little) (The wire) - The Gunsmith. A tough, street-smart criminal who can kill just about anybody.
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> [Chloe O’Brian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloe_O'Brian) (24) - The Computer Expert. Good with computers and used to high stress situations. 'Nuff said.
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> [Walter White (Breaking Bad)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_White_(Breaking_Bad)) - The Science Expert. Whenever you need anything chemistry-related, from explosions to poisons, he’s your man.
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> [Veronica Mars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_Mars_(character)) (Veronica Mars) - The Detective. Don’t be fooled by her youth… her brains and expertise acquired at a very young age will outsmart any villain.  
> Together they are forced to band to stop terrorist Abu Nazir (Homeland)from launching a nuclear attack over the US. Tony Soprano may be involved with either side at some point.

I like it! Might I add Guerrero from Human Target as the mysteriously bad-ass fixer with surprising connections?

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Not contemporary. Or in our world.

This really isn’t my day for reading plain words on the screen, is it? :smack:

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> [@Werekoala](#):
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> Adding in TV, then Walter Bishop makes the cut - yay!
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> And thanks to the BBC, Sherlock Holmes can be added as well.

Well, since Alan Moore could’ve used Holmes but didn’t, he probably should be given a pass here as well. “Doesn’t play well with others.”

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:42, topic:668036”]

Oh, for sure, but he doesn’t fit the criteria, either.  
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I guess he was a character in some of the early Jack Ryan novels, but he didn’t get a top-billing until 1993’s “Without Remorse”, which is kind of where I was dating him from.

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> [@Werekoala](#):
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> Adding in TV, then Walter Bishop makes the cut - yay!
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> And thanks to the BBC, Sherlock Holmes can be added as well.

Actually, thanks to CBS you can have two Holmes-es.

I bet they would just argue a lot and never get anything done, of course.

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While there are a lot of good suggestions, many of them are not iconic in the way that Dr. Jekkyl or Captain Nemo are. Would the average person know who Ding Chavez is, for instance?

The OP’s list does a pretty good job, though. My two cents:

Lisbeth Salandar  
Dexter Morgan  
Harry Potter  
Jack Reacher  
One of the ‘Twilight’ vampires  
Robert Langdon  
‘Hunger Games’ girl

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Thursday Next (from Jasper Fforde’s novels, beginning with _The Eyre Affair_.) She’s a detective, a soldier, and effectively a teleport.  
Harry Lefferts (From the _1632_ novels, but he originated in the 1990’s, and it’s clear he’s a sneaky badass here.)  
Sabrina and Daphne Grimm (From _The Sisters Grimm_ novels, by Michael Buckley.) The “Queen of the Sneaks” and an efficient magic user with a talent for making useful friends.  
The Baudelaires (from Lemony Snicket’s _A Series of Unfortunate Events_): Violet (gadgeteer), Klaus (a know-it-all is always useful), Sunny (watch out for those teeth!)  
Mibs Beaumont, Ledger Kale, Dinah Kale (from Ingrid Law’s novels _Savvy_ and _Scumble_): Mibscan get you whatever information you need if you give her a pen, Ledgercan break and repair (often in better condition) anything and Dinah can make anyone obey her, including forgetting what they’ve seen any of the other members do..

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> [@bump](#):
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> I guess he was a character in some of the early Jack Ryan novels, but he didn’t get a top-billing until 1993’s “Without Remorse”, which is kind of where I was dating him from.

Fair enough

> [@phreesh](#):
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> One of the ‘Twilight’ vampires

If we’re going to include a vampire, one of the “Sookie Stackhouse” (a.k.a. “Southern Vampire series”) vampires would be a much more potent choice. The very old ones have immense strength, mind control, and they can _fly_.

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> [@phreesh](#):
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> While there are a lot of good suggestions, many of them are not iconic in the way that Dr. Jekkyl or Captain Nemo are. Would the average person know who Ding Chavez is, for instance?
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> The OP’s list does a pretty good job, though. My two cents:
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> Lisbeth Salandar  
> Dexter Morgan  
> Harry Potter  
> Jack Reacher  
> One of the ‘Twilight’ vampires  
> Robert Langdon  
> ‘Hunger Games’ girl

Get rid of Robert Langdon and swap with Cayce Pollard from William Gibson’s Pattern Recognition. Similar “powers” but much cooler. Plus her dad was CIA.

There should probably be someone from a Stephen King novel but I’m not sure on which. Pennywise?

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> There should probably be someone from a Stephen King novel but I’m not sure on which. Pennywise?

I thought the LoEG were _good_ guys. An ancient evil that takes the form of a clown that rips off small boys’ arms probably wouldn’t qualify. 🙂

You want a Stephen King character, go with Roland from the Dark Tower. Or maybe as a more obscure choice, Nick Hopewell from “The Langoliers” (British secret agent type, good in a crisis)

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> You want a Stephen King character, go with Roland from the Dark Tower.

Roland doesn’t qualify. The OP says:

> [@Musky\_Moon](#):
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> The character must have been introduced sometime from the mid-nineties to today.

Roland was introduced in the early eighties.

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> You want a Stephen King character, go with Roland from the Dark Tower. Or maybe as a more obscure choice, Nick Hopewell from “The Langoliers” (British secret agent type, good in a crisis)

If you’re dropping the OP’s mid-'90s clause, IMHO _The Dead Zone_’s Johnny Smith is a lock to creepily gather the team and point 'em in the right direction.

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> I thought the LoEG were _good_ guys. An ancient evil that takes the form of a clown that rips off small boys’ arms probably wouldn’t qualify. 🙂
> 
> You want a Stephen King character, go with Roland from the Dark Tower. Or maybe as a more obscure choice, Nick Hopewell from “The Langoliers” (British secret agent type, good in a crisis)

Good guys? Alan Moore’s group contained the murderous Mr. Hyde and the psychotic Invisible Man (who, when we first encounter him, is raping schoolgirls). And Captain Nemo is NOT one of the “good guys”. They may have been given cause to work together for the good of Britain, but, no, a sense of morality is not a requirement.

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Good guys? Alan Moore’s group contained the murderous Mr. Hyde and the psychotic Invisible Man (who, when we first encounter him, is raping schoolgirls). And Captain Nemo is NOT one of the “good guys”. They may have been given cause to work together for the good of Britain, but, no, a sense of morality is not a requirement.

Okay, fair enough. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it. 😛 But I still say that there are way better choices for King characters than Pennywise.

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Well, since Alan Moore could’ve used Holmes but didn’t, he probably should be given a pass here as well. “Doesn’t play well with others.”

I thought the graphic novel had Holmes, but the movie went with Quartermain because they couldn’t get the rights to show Holmes on film? I dunno, I gave up on Moore before League came out, tiring of his obsession with rape.

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> I thought the graphic novel had Holmes, but the movie went with Quartermain because they couldn’t get the rights to show Holmes on film? I dunno, I gave up on Moore before League came out, tiring of his obsession with rape.

Having stopped reading comi…er graphic novels in 1985 could you explain this a bit please?  
Hedley Lamarr: Qualifications?  
Applicant: Rape, murder, arson, and rape.  
Hedley Lamarr: You said rape twice.  
Applicant: I like rape.

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