# pick your show/movie, tell me when to get up and leave. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310 "2012-01-03T23:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/61 "2012-06-07T04:33:31Z")
Penn and Teller Get Killed - leave when the shooting starts. Really, don’t stay for the second gunshot. ---
**Author:** ![Sleel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Sleel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleel)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/62 "2012-06-07T06:02:43Z")
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: You can skip everything after Jones falls asleep on the plane and not really be missing out on anything. The opening situation is the only thing in the movie that didn’t suck or annoy the crap out of the viewer. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/63 "2012-06-07T06:14:49Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Babylon 5. Stop after season 4. Go ahead and skip season 1 as well. I got into the show when it was in syndication partway into season 2, and I could follow along just fine. When the channel airing the show looped around and started back on season 1, it was… jarring. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/64 "2012-06-07T06:45:26Z")
> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#): > > Go ahead and skip season 1 as well. I got into the show when it was in syndication partway into season 2, and I could follow along just fine. When the channel airing the show looped around and started back on season 1, it was… jarring. I liked season 1. You have such episodes as “Soul Hunter” and then you have “Babylon Squared” which is revisited in season 3’s “War Without End”. In “Chrysalis” We’re introduced to Mr. Morden. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/65 "2012-06-07T15:27:19Z")
_Romance & Cigarettes_ is the clearest example of this I’ve ever seen. Leave when James Gandolfini goes home. It’s a quirky, patchy little film, not a great film but with some great moments. And it ends when James Gandolfini goes home. That is, obviously and beyond any possible argument, the end of the film. But some studio exec or someone got his knickers in a twist because Gandolfini’s character smokes, and you can’t show smoking without showing the character being punished for it. So they slapped on an extra half-hour where the character dies of lung cancer. It has absolutely no connection to the rest of the film, in terms of plot arc, thematic arc, character, anything. It’s so obviously a public service announcement that you cringe for the person who thought it up and the actors who had to do it. You can practically see ‘JUST SAY NO TO TOBACCO!’ coming up at the end. It’s as if someone watched Pulp Fiction and decided that you can’t show Jules eating a high-fat Big Kahuna Burger and not show him being punished for it, so at the end of the film they added an extra half-hour where he has a heart attack and everyone gathers at his bedside to hear his last words. (‘Kids…check your cholesterol!’ _dies_) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/66 "2012-06-07T15:43:38Z")
> [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > It’s as if someone watched Pulp Fiction and decided that you can’t show Jules eating a high-fat Big Kahuna Burger and not show him being punished for it, so at the end of the film they added an extra half-hour where he has a heart attack and everyone gathers at his bedside to hear his last words. (‘Kids…check your cholesterol!’ _dies_) Joke all you want, but _Pulp Fiction_ does have a certain amount of morality to it. Butch redeems himself to Marcellus by coming to his rescue. Jules, who accepted the Miracle of the Bullets, presumably lives to a ripe old age; Vincent, who scoffs, dies in an apartment bathroom. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/67 "2012-06-07T15:48:32Z")
I totally agree. It’s one of the things I like about the film. But all the morality is rooted within the film’s own world and set of rules; it isn’t completely WTF-ly irrelevant and tacked on to satisfy some outside demand. Also, all the moral framework within _Pulp Fiction_ has to do with actual morality, not health (which is often presented as morality these days - whole different rant). And _Romance & Cigarettes_ is the same, up until the PSA at the end. That’s one reason why I picked _Pulp Fiction_ as my example. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/68 "2012-06-07T16:40:55Z")
**ecletic wench** -I guess that guy didn’t get the memo that the Hays Code is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/69 "2012-06-07T17:18:21Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > After season six, _Red Dwarf_ became unwatchable. It was like bad fanfic. I’d say after Season 5. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/70 "2012-06-07T17:23:05Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Although I still watch _Glee_, I am increasingly feeling like I’d recommend to other people who have never seen the show that they should either stop at the end of the first season or, if they really like Kurt (and I do), continue on to the second season and stop with the prom episode. I can largely only watch it now if I fast forward through the songs… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/71 "2012-06-10T22:19:08Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Unmoved by the “charms” of any of the suggested, sorry. I’m not sure that Pallas is influencing these decisions. Heretic! God does not care one way or the other about alt-Kira. She simply feels that the non-arc episodes of DS9’s last seasons sucked for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/72 "2012-06-10T22:25:36Z")
The Star Trek “reboot” movie. Leave about halfway through the previews of upcoming movies. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/73 "2012-06-11T03:16:50Z")
> [@flano1](#): > > 2 Broke Girls. 15 seconds into ep. 1! :rolleyes: You never even saw the horse, then. Kat and Beth on a horse in their characters’ backyard is pretty cute. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/74 "2012-06-11T03:20:01Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > And, IMO, skip the “alternate universe” episodes. > > Similarly, in _Jacob’s Ladder_ - if you liked it as a horror movie, stop right after the protagonist sees someone important at the foot of some stairs and they go somewhere. What. Just no. You are wrong. (And it still can be read as a horror movie after that, just on a different plane than you probably thought.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/75 "2012-06-12T00:39:16Z")
**Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid** - When they decide to go to Bolivia. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/76 "2012-06-12T00:55:58Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > _Cast Away_: The moment he gets rescued. can you elaborate on this? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/77 "2012-06-12T00:57:33Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > **A.I.** : Get up and leave when the kidbot is stuck under water facing the Blue Fairy or whatever the hell it is. HA! More like “leave after the Warner Bros. logo and you won’t be disappointed.” ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/78 "2012-06-12T01:07:44Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > What. Just no. You are wrong. (And it still can be read as a horror movie after that, just on a different plane than you probably thought.) Am not! I liked it better without the ending bit. I think the real ending was **valid** and interesting, but minimized the impact, for me, of what came before it. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/79 "2012-06-12T01:45:05Z")
**Easy Rider** : “We blew it. G’night, man.” ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310/80 "2012-06-13T08:24:28Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Am not! > > I liked it better without the ending bit. I think the real ending was **valid** and interesting, but minimized the impact, for me, of what came before it. OK, fair enough. The ending is out of nowhere. I see your point. But I don’t think I could make it that far and just walk out. You can imagine a different ending if you want, but that’s one case where you probably should go ahead and see what the filmmakers came up with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pick-your-show-movie-tell-me-when-to-get-up-and-leave/608310.md?page=5)