# Pierce Brosnan Fired from 007

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 18, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535 "2005-08-18T03:20:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/41 "2005-08-18T19:46:31Z")

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I nominate [Jason Isaacs](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005042/) aka Lucius Malfoy aka Clark Devlin.

If not Bond, he’d make a cool villain.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/42 "2005-08-18T19:46:36Z")

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I’ve since heard rumors about Goran Visnic (sp?), an actor from _E.R._ who I’m not familiar with. I’ve heard all the rumors about Clive Owen, Ewan McGregor, Daniel Craig, and Hugh Jackman, and I could see any of the four of them bringing different things to the role – or Alexis Denisof as well.

To be completely honest, I’m not the hugest Bond fan in the world. For action heroes, I’d much rather watch Jack Bauer, John McClane, Chow-Yun Fat, Batman, Spider-Man, or Indiana Jones. The Bond formula is just dated, and never had a place or a need to exist after the Cold War ended. But if they could make an entertaining action movie with a charismatic lead actor, a good villain, and at least one hot chick, I’d probably see it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/43 "2005-08-18T19:51:01Z")

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Frillionth vote for Clive Owen. The man’s got charisma, ruggedness, dangerousness, the right accent, and the right kind of Hollywood buzz. He’d do a great job.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/44 "2005-08-18T19:53:16Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> While he’s not British, I think Russell Crow would be excellent - although, I doubt he would do it.

James Bond, “fightin’ 'round thuh wuld!”

I don’t know if I could handle that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/45 "2005-08-18T21:02:27Z")

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Jason Isaacs might make a good choice. He’s got terrific screen presence and all in all would be a Bond in the Timothy Dalton mold, if not as tall. There’s a couple of minor strikes against him, though – his age (at 42, he’s the same age now that Bronson was when he got the role) and what I suspect is a tendency for him to put on a little weight (but then, so did Connery and Brosnan at times). And would Isaacs be comfortable enough with action sequences?

I’d like to toss in a new name: Thomas Jane (The Punisher, Stander, Boogie Nights). Pros: he’s a good and versatile actor, 36 years old, 5’11.5", looks great in action sequences and love scenes, and got into fantastic physical shape for The Punisher. Cons: he’s American and not particularly well known. Mitigating factors: fans of action flicks know who he is, and he’s good with accents. For Stander, he learned to do Afrikaans and Bantu [?] accents, so he could probably be convincing as a Brit.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/46 "2005-08-18T21:11:15Z")

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For me Bond is Connery or Moore, for no other reason than that’s who was playing him in all the movies I liked as a kid, and I didn’t question what I was being fed. This impression has more-or-less been fixed in my subconscious mind, to the point I just cannot buy _anybody_ else in the role.

IMO, the Bond franchise needs to take a loooong breather. Russurect the character in a generation, when the faces of old Bonds has had time to fade a bit.

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**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/47 "2005-08-18T21:31:33Z")

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I always thought [this guy](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0922035/) would be a great Bond.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/48 "2005-08-18T21:40:56Z")

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I’ve submitted a correction to IMDB regarding the false claim that the broccoli plant was named for Albert “Cubby” Broccoli’s ancestors. However, the automatic response says it generally takes a couple weeks for corrections to be approved.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/49 "2005-08-18T21:45:30Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Connery isn’t English, either-he’s Scottish. He’s British, but not English.

He’s also closest to Ian Fleming’s character in terms of heritage.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/50 "2005-08-18T21:55:46Z")

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[Alan Rickman](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1146/Events/1146/rickman_alan?path=pgallery&path_key=Rickman,%20Alan) seems to match up with [Fleming’s concept](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fleming007impression.jpg) in terms of appearance. Too bad he’s busy.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/51 "2005-08-18T22:10:26Z")

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How about Rowan Atkinson? OWOWOWOW!!! Stop! I was just kidding. Seriously though I thought _Johnny English_ was a hoot and the ass kicking chase scene with the Aston Martin and tow truck was worthy of the best Bond movies.

I’m leaning toward Ewan McGregor after seeing his '60s suave guy in the otherwise sucky _Down With Love_.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/52 "2005-08-18T22:33:29Z")

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> [@Padeye](#):
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> I’m leaning toward Ewan McGregor after seeing his '60s suave guy in the otherwise sucky _Down With Love_.

That’s what finally sold him for me too. McGregor is always charming and a very versatile actor, but he was way more of a badass as the Cary Grant-esque Catcher Block in _Down With Love_ than in all three \*Star Wars \* movies put together.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/53 "2005-08-19T03:18:00Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> I’ve since heard rumors about Goran Visnic (sp?), an actor from _E.R._ who I’m not familiar with.

[Goran Visnjic](http://www.lose-myself.com/goranzone/) Only problem would be overcoming his thick Croatian accent.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/54 "2005-08-19T05:32:40Z")

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Really don’t like the thought of Ewan MacGregor. He’s a little too pasty. Ewan, even after the Obi-wan stint, doesn’t give off a vibe of being able to kick anyone’s ass. Thats probably why he worked as Obi-Wan, since he was recreating Alec Guiness’ take.

Bond to me is just loaded with testosterone. Thats why Jude Law and Ewan MacGregor don’t fit for me.

A guy I think would really nail the role it George Clooney. Not sure how much losing the English accent would hurt the character, but if he recreated his Danny Ocean character with a little more physicality he’d be great. Maybe if the movie were written so that he had to blend into an American environment as part of his cover and adopting an American accent was a necessity.

Anyways, I thought Orlando Bloom was already a done deal.

Reading this article

[http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news\_id=16659](http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16659)

and this one

[http://www.malefirst.co.uk/3472004.htm](http://www.malefirst.co.uk/3472004.htm)

It sounds like it’s a sure thing. However, he’ll be playing a young Bond in a prequel of sorts. And it also appears that there may be two concurrent Bonds. One playing the older Bond we’re used to and Bloom as the young one. It doesn’t seem to be clear in Casino Royale is intended to be that “young” Bond film or not. Perhaps that film is further off.

Clive Owen might be OK, if a little unispired. I like Owen, be he’s better as the silent brooding type, not the more silver tongued Bond.

And Hugh Grant…um, seriously?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/55 "2005-08-19T06:27:33Z")

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Actually, Fleming never mentioned anything about Bond’s ancestry until \*after \* Connery was cast. The first mention of Bond’s Scottishness was in the novel OHMSS, which was written after Dr. No was filmed.  
Clive Owen? Something bugs me about him–his head looks too big for his body.  
Connery was the best Bond, followed by Dalton, Brosnan, Lazenby, David Niven, Connery’s stunt double, and Roger Moore, in that order.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/56 "2005-08-19T16:42:20Z")

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> [@Dr. Rieux](#):
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> Actually, Fleming never mentioned anything about Bond’s ancestry until \*after \* Connery was cast.

Really? I think my parents still have my books so I was just going by what Wikipedia says.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/57 "2005-08-19T17:06:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How about Rowan Atkinson? OWOWOWOW!!! Stop! I was just kidding. Seriously though I thought Johnny English was a hoot and the ass kicking chase scene with the Aston Martin and tow truck was worthy of the best Bond movies.

Rowan Atkinson’s already been in a Bond movie – he was “Small-Fawcett” in **Never Say Never Again**.  
People do show up in multiple Bond films, but no secondary character has ever risen to become Bond.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/58 "2005-08-19T18:08:36Z")

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On that note, I would like to nominate Benedicio del Toro as a Latin Bond.

He was originally the right-hand-man of Robert Davi in the Dalton flick “The Living Daylights”.

_Muy suave._

“Bond…_Jaime_ Bond”.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/59 "2005-08-19T18:17:33Z")

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> [@Enola Straight](#):
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> On that note, I would like to nominate Benedicio del Toro as a Latin Bond.
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> He was originally the right-hand-man of Robert Davi in the Dalton flick “The Living Daylights”.
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> _Muy suave._
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> “Bond…_Jaime_ Bond”.

[Alexander Siddig El Fadil](http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/KColohan/sidcred.htm) as Yakub al Bond

Where is it we’re going to need undercover agents anyway?

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pierce-brosnan-fired-from-007/317535/60 "2005-08-20T02:37:06Z")

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This is kinda freaky. My sister and I were just discussing Brosnan and Bond a few days ago, and she wants Adrian Paul to be the next Bond.

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