# Pilots, lawyers, etc: Let's talk about Trevor Jacob, YouTuber who may have intentionally crashed his plane for publicity

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 13, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985 "2022-03-13T19:46:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/81 "2023-05-13T16:40:47Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Pour encourager les autres.

_Pour decourager les autres_ seems more applicable here.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/82 "2023-05-13T17:25:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Every pilot knows, or should know, that the NTSB investigates each crash _thoroughly_ to find out the cause of the crash.

Every pilot knows  
That the secret of survival  
Is don’t crash your plane on purpose  
You stupid Youtube geek…

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/83 "2023-05-13T17:31:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > [@commasense](#):
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> > Pour encourager les autres.
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> _Pour decourager les autres_ seems more applicable here.

I think Voltaire himself would’ve seen this as an opportunity to encourage those planning similarly asinine stunts to change their minds.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/84 "2023-05-13T18:10:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> _Pour decourager les autres_ seems more applicable here.

It’s _always_ discouragement implied by that phrase. The point of the “joke” in the original usage was the ironic use of “encourage” about a deterrent as extreme as execution.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/85 "2023-05-13T20:26:52Z")

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Actually I heard on a video of a pilot describing the incident that this was basically a junk plane he upgraded with the bare minimum required to fly it. The plane could not be insured iirc because it was considered a total loss even before the accident.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/86 "2023-05-13T21:18:00Z")

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Steve Lehto has a good overview(14 min).  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNERrZ4yZo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNERrZ4yZo8)

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/87 "2023-05-14T06:20:37Z")

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Something posters here seemed to have missed:

> Jacob’s lawyer, Keri Curtis Axel, told Ars, “Trevor is taking full responsibility for his mistake in judgment; he hopes to move past it and to use **his status as a world-class action sports athlete, entrepreneur, and influencer** to be a source for good in society.”

> **[YouTuber who crashed plane admits he did it for money and views](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/youtuber-who-crashed-plane-admits-he-did-it-for-money-and-views/)**
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> The maximum sentence for YouTuber's admitted crimes is 20 years.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/88 "2023-05-14T07:03:08Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> If the deal negotiated with the prosecutor is for $50 and having to pick up the trash, the judge might reject it, and send them back to renegotiate or go to trial.

At the very least the judge should force him to sit on the Group W bench.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/89 "2023-05-14T10:25:04Z")

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Why _did_ he have a fire extinguisher strapped to his leg? I’ve never understood that bit.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/90 "2023-05-14T10:48:34Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Why _did_ he have a fire extinguisher strapped to his leg?

I think he expected to be able to land fairly close to the plane, and would need the fire extinguisher to quickly put out any fires resulting from the crash. Not because he was worried about causing any sort of wildfire disaster or anything, but just to make sure is GoPro videos wouldn’t get destroyed by fire.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/91 "2023-05-14T10:50:34Z")

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Ah! I thought maybe as a sneaky water bottle or something. I guess we can just chalk the gun up to dumb bravado.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/92 "2023-05-21T04:19:27Z")

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How easy would it be to cut up an airplane into small enough pieces to discard in multiple dumpsters? Sounds like a huge pita, if true.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/93 "2023-05-21T04:39:53Z")

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If he were smart he’d find those shady junkyards that take the copper wiring and catalytic converters no questions asked and just give the plane pieces to them.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/94 "2023-05-21T04:40:01Z")

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I’m sure it would be harder than cutting up a huge pita.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/95 "2023-05-21T10:59:21Z")

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The Taylorcraft is fabric-covered wood construction, like the very earliest planes.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/96 "2023-05-21T11:45:59Z")

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Still harder to cut up than a soft flatbread.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/97 "2023-05-21T12:56:36Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> The Taylorcraft is fabric-covered wood construction, like the very earliest planes.

I’m guessing the wings are fabric-covered wooden frames, but the fuselage is fabric-covered steel tubing.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/98 "2023-05-21T14:31:51Z")

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I wonder if old plane lovers feel the same way I do when I see some asshole on stage smash his guitar.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/99 "2023-05-21T17:19:37Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I wonder if old plane lovers feel the same way I do when I see some asshole on stage smash his guitar

From what I saw in the comments of various YT videos about the incident, very much so.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pilots-lawyers-etc-lets-talk-about-trevor-jacob-youtuber-who-may-have-intentionally-crashed-his-plane-for-publicity/960985/100 "2023-05-21T19:34:52Z")

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Yes, you’re right. Sorry for the unintentional misinformation.

I was first drawn to this story because I’ve flown in a Taylorcraft a few times. A friend of mine in college, forty years ago, owned one.

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