# PIN Number

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 6, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620 "2004-04-06T20:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/41 "2004-04-08T23:54:15Z")

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The La Brea Tar Pits

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/42 "2004-04-09T02:39:34Z")

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DVD Video

Yes, I have a digital video disc video player. :rolleyes:

I was going to make the SCUBA gear point, but I see **GrizzRich** beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/43 "2004-04-09T03:30:27Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> This phenomenon is known as Redundant Acronym Syndrome, or RAS syndrome for short.

So does that mean it’s Redundant RAS Syndrome?

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**Author:** ![partlycloudy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/partlycloudy/32/3114_2.png) [@partlycloudy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/partlycloudy)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/44 "2004-04-09T04:21:00Z")

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> [@EnginNerd](#):
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> But what do you call a machine that makes ATMs?

An ATM machine maker. … Or “ATMMM maker” for short.

AHHHHHHH!!!

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/45 "2004-04-09T07:11:36Z")

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> [@Silver Fire](#):
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> DVD Video
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> Yes, I have a digital video disc video player. :rolleyes:

Well, actually, DVD stands for both “Digital Video Disc” and “Digital Versatile Disc.” I do believe the latter was the original acronym, and thus the DVD consortium chose to label those players that were meant for video playback to be identified by DVD-Video. As opposed to DVD-ROM (Digital Versatile Disc - Read Only Memory), DVD-A (Audio), DVD-R (Recordable), DVD-RW (rewriteable), etc, etc… You’ll notice that your DVD player actually says DVD-Video, simply to identify the type of DVD discs that play on that player.

CD did not follow this pattern because when the CD was introduced, it was ONLY for use as an audio medium. The computer implications were soon realized, and CD-ROMs were introduced, but that was a bit later…DVD was intended for many different applications at its outset.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/46 "2004-04-09T11:19:18Z")

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> [@LoganDear](#):
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> An ATM machine maker. … Or “ATMMM maker” for short.
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> AHHHHHHH!!!

…and the firm that fits out that factory?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/47 "2004-04-09T12:19:32Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> “CAD design”

I always thought CAD stood for Computer Aided Drafting.

Computer Aided Drafting Design is awkward, but its not as bad as “ATM Machine”.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/48 "2004-04-09T17:02:15Z")

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The one that currently pisses me off the most is

“and as an added bonus…”

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/49 "2004-04-09T17:24:00Z")

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I am, right now, editing an article on Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD), which is several times referred to as “COPD disease.”

Yes, I corrected it . . .

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/50 "2004-04-09T18:42:36Z")

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River Avon.

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/51 "2004-04-09T23:46:52Z")

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> [@gotpasswords](#):
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> I thought FOD stood for Foreign Objects and Debris, so FOD Damage would be perfectly acceptable.
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> A moment of googling shows that there’s even [websites](http://www.fodnews.com/article0a.html) devoted to FOD.

Around my workplace it is regularly used as I described above, but thanks anyway.

I had no idea there were so many FOD websites. There’s even a [picture](http://www.fodnews.com/pics/c17vortexcopyright.jpg) of one of the engines I work with.  
_Now back to your regularly scheduled thread._

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/52 "2004-04-10T00:58:36Z")

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> [@King Friday](#):
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> How about, from the automotive world, a four door sedan.

😕 I always thought that “sedan” meant not a hatchback or van or other vehicle. I sure thought my car was a two-door sedan.

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**Author:** ![King\_Friday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@King\_Friday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/King_Friday)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/53 "2004-04-10T02:50:04Z")

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> [@chula](#):
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> 😕 I always thought that “sedan” meant not a hatchback or van or other vehicle. I sure thought my car was a two-door sedan.

I guess by now you know you have a 2 door coupe…

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pin-number/238620/54 "2004-04-10T13:50:15Z")

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In & Around St. Louis: UMB Bank, which stands for United Missouri Bank Bank.

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