# Pineapple on Pizza comes to Italy. Not without Protest

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 3, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559 "2024-01-03T19:40:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/41 "2024-01-18T18:46:24Z")

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> [@xtenkfarpl](#):
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> The trinity is very odd. I like bell peppers and unions, but detest celery…

I’m Cajun, and I omit celery from the mirepoix. I don’t care for it, so I make up the difference with more onions and peppers, plus minced garlic. As with pizza toppings, there is no One True Way.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/42 "2024-01-18T18:54:16Z")

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Heathens and blasphemers - the lot of you.

Not for adding the garlic, can’t leave the Pope out.

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**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/43 "2024-01-18T19:00:15Z")

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Of course in New Orleans, one rolls with the tradition. Actually cooked celery does have its place in that cuisine. When in Rome, as the saying goes…

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/44 "2024-01-18T19:55:27Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> why is it so important to so many people what other people eat?

You’re asking this on a board where the consensus is you’re beneath contempt if you like catsup on your pig snouts and anus sausages (aka hot dogs). And let’s not mention milk in a wine bar.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/45 "2024-01-18T20:02:37Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Heathens and blasphemers - the lot of you.

There are people in Louisiana who wait for me to visit home to make gumbo for them (and Louisianians resident in Texas who invite me over specifically to help them make it). I think my kitchen-soul is safe. 😉

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/46 "2024-01-18T20:44:58Z")

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Frankly, I’m more revolted by your spelling of “ketchup.” 🙂 (And I’m betting a clear majority of posters here put it on their dogs.)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/47 "2024-01-18T20:49:12Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Frankly, I’m more revolted by your spelling of “ketchup.”

I always wanted to have a restaurant that, on the counter, had bottles of catsup and ketchup.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/48 "2024-01-18T20:51:38Z")

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Didn’t one of the major brands used to spell it catsup? I seem to remember maybe Hunt’s?

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/49 "2024-01-18T20:56:45Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I seem to remember maybe Hunt’s?

Del Monte, IIRC.

Or these people:

> **[World's Largest Catsup Bottle Official Web Site and Fan Club](https://www.catsupbottle.com/index.html)**
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> Official Web Site and Fan Club of
> the World's Largest Catsup Bottle in Collinsville, Illinois

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/50 "2024-01-18T20:58:58Z")

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Would you like some catsup on your catfish?

> **[Abbott & Costello Having Catfish Chowder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUVdVBXQbdQ%2F)**
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> Naughty Nineties!

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/51 "2024-01-18T21:08:35Z")

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> [@Balance](#):
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> There are people in Louisiana who wait for me to visit home to make gumbo for them (and Louisianians resident in Texas who invite me over specifically to help them make it).

I’m sure it’s awesome. And just think how much better it would be if it had just a little celery in it!

Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not a purist who demands equal portions of the Trinity - the Good Lord in His Mercy does allow for some portion adjustment to account for individual taste, but to just not have ANY in there? It’d be like crossing yourself and saying “In the name of the Father and of the Son and…well nobody else really - that’s it.”.

😉

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/52 "2024-01-18T21:25:58Z")

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Problem for me here is that I hate both bell pepper and celery. 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/53 "2024-01-18T21:34:36Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> But then again, Italians are a bit ridiculous IMO, with their notions of cuisine purity, and it should be taken with a grain of salt.

A grain of salt!?!? Are you trying to poison me? Italian cuisine arguments should only be made with 3 ingredients!

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/54 "2024-01-18T23:22:12Z")

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Gumbo is one of those things where everyone has their own recipe, and none are incorrect. They tend toward the “make do with what’s available” side of cuisine in my experience. Kind of like Mexican houses and ways to make beans- I’ve had it with bacon, sausages, hot dogs, ham, etc… added in for flavor. They were all good. Same with the gumbos I’ve had- some were file, some were okra, some were sausage and chicken, others were seafood, and others were a mixture. And some folks add more… “exotic” meat to their gumbo- stuff like nutria and alligator for example.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/55 "2024-01-23T06:52:28Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> And some folks add more… “exotic” meat to their gumbo- stuff like nutria and alligator for example.

Well, the Lenten season is approaching (indeed, Mardi Gras falls on 13-Feb this year) and I suspect nutria _might_ be allowed by the RCC. Beaver is, fairly sure, but I have not really thoroughly investigated the matter this year.

I’m kind of shocked no one has “cited” this old page by “\<insertFakeName\>” from the now defunct Mel Magazine. It’s likely true, at any rate.

> **[Real Italians Put Hot Dogs and French Fries on Their Pizza](https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/italian-pizza-toppings-hot-dogs-and-french-fries)**
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> It’s known as ‘American Pizza’ — pineapple, however, is still unacceptable

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/56 "2024-01-24T00:42:21Z")

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> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> Well, the Lenten season is approaching (indeed, Mardi Gras falls on 13-Feb this year) and I suspect nutria _might_ be allowed by the RCC. Beaver is, fairly sure, but I have not really thoroughly investigated the matter this year.

Being partially aquatic, they might qualify as fish for Lent, at least that’s how it would have worked in the Medieval period.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/57 "2024-01-24T00:47:16Z")

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Fish and all cold-blooded animals are allowed.

ETA: Though [this says beavers, capybara, and other aquatic mammals are okay, too.](https://www.foodandwine.com/news/capybara-beaver-muskrat-lent-approved-foods).

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/58 "2024-01-24T08:45:12Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> ETA: Though [this says beavers, capybara, and other aquatic mammals are okay, too.](https://www.foodandwine.com/news/capybara-beaver-muskrat-lent-approved-foods)

Yeah, beaver’s an old favorite, from Canada days…

I think I’ll let someone else try to capture and eat a capybara, though. And probably platypus is…the meat would not be good, I suspect.

Actually, I’ll be having none of that! Yes, not very adventurous, but…still…ehh. Not so much. Of course, my days as an eighteenth-century trapper/trader are well behind me, so I have the luxury of choice.

“Amusing” anecdote du jour: a cat I work with, from Hawaii, keeps repeating his faux indignation about some time a few weeks ago when one of the big bosses ordered up a pizza run during a kind of hectic time.

For some reason one of the pies was the regular “Hawaiian” (you know, pineapple and Canadian bacon…which was good…I think I had two slices of that, plus some of the others, since no one else was digging into it).

Yes, he’s joking around still but he’s getting a lot of guffaws about “cultural appropriation” and so forth. No, he’s not serious, he just thinks it’s a revolting combination. As apparently many people do.

I still say to him, even just today, “You know, Vince, they ordered that specially for you!”

Meh, it’s fine. Probably has vitamin C in the pineapple or something. Health food.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/59 "2024-01-24T09:07:24Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Fish and all cold-blooded animals are allowed.

I will celebrate with a whole roast Komodo Dragon this year!

Now, just to find a butcher who supplies them. And a decent recipe.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pineapple-on-pizza-comes-to-italy-not-without-protest/995559/60 "2024-01-24T10:45:18Z")

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Well, wow. I did find one. [Komodo tail](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.facebook.com/100716955055459/posts/sinigang-na-buntot-ng-komodo-dragon2-lbs-dragon-tail-1-bunch-spinach-or-kang-kon/100722058388282/&ved=2ahUKEwjxsoPQ6vWDAxU3TEEAHeMoCcIQFnoECCkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1F0xDv44gsRMU116AfqL-I). (Facebook link)

I’ve eaten crocodile tail - I even ordered it recently as carpaccio, mostly so my kids could get bragging rights at school.

I dont really like it, and neither did they. But who gets to run into school (junior school obviously) and shout out “I ate a crocodile!”. Stuff of legends for a 6 year old.

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