# Pinkivee, stop thinking with your vagina.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863 "2008-09-16T17:46:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/41 "2008-09-17T00:42:54Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> Hell, [Biden said the fact Obama’s black is a reason to vote for him](http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880914028), so it’s not like this is a surprise.

That is a total misrepresentation of what Biden said (are you Republican?).

> [@](#):
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> "Biden said the policies of running mate Barack Obama make his presidency even more urgent and declared this to be the most important election that any living person has seen in their lifetime. But he particularly **singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black**.
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> \*\*“That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.” \*\*(emphasis mine).

He is saying, when Obama is elected, his being black with be a significant historical and political achievement, not the reason for voting for him.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/42 "2008-09-17T01:20:18Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Have you actually read any of her posts? They’re unintelligible, rambling nonsense. I believe that’s where the troll label is coming from.

So why does than mean “troll” instead of “idiot”?

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/43 "2008-09-17T01:45:17Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Have you actually read any of her posts? They’re unintelligible, rambling nonsense. I believe that’s where the troll label is coming from.

No I haven’t. That’s why I asked for examples. And what \*\*Revtim \*\*said. How does unintelligible rambing nonsense make one a troll? Idiocy can certainly be argued, but trolling isn’t the conclusion I would reach by reading the quoted post.

Again, if someone would like to provide cites for trolling, I’m open to making another decision.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/44 "2008-09-17T01:50:19Z")

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> [@PhiloVance](#):
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> If you look around at the polls, both Gallup and Rassmussen, things are moving toward McCain. At this point it is no longer convention bounce. Sarah Palin has changed the dynamics of this election, like it or not.

As someone else said, the numbers have slid back toward Obama again.

In every election I’ve watched (since 1984), the same pattern has played out: big jump in the polls for the Democrats during the week after their convention, followed by a similar jump for the Republicans during the week following theirs. Personally, I think we should be looking for these people who switch back and forth based on pep rallies and start using them as an alternative fuel source.

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**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/45 "2008-09-17T02:35:28Z")

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Sorry to be a broken record guys, but what’s the fuss? Democrats and republicans are both funded by the same major sources, making this basically a puppet show. Anyone need cites?

Here’s an example, in regards to the 2008 Presidential elections:

[QUOTE=Corporations and Health Watch]  
the food and beverage industry has already contributed more than $2m to Democrats and more than $3m to Republicans…  
[including]

1. The National Restaurant Association ($426,500)
2. Osi Restaurant Partners ($340,500)
3. McDonald’s Corp ($134,420)
4. Coca-Cola Co ($97,750)
5. Ilitch Holdings ($96,100)
6. Starbucks Coffee ($84,979)
7. Wendy’s ($82,850)
8. Mjkl Enterprises ($65,100)
9. Brinker International ($63,650)
10. Coca-Cola Enterprises ($60,250)  
[/QUOTE]

gleaned from the site [corporationsandhealth.org](http://corporationsandhealth.org) from a piece written by Alexandra Lewin, a doctoral student doing her dissertation on federal obesity policy.

Need more? [This site](http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/index.php) has charts showing political contributions from different industries, how much, and proportion of contribution to each party. The proportions may differ slightly, but guess what? _Industries_ are funding our elections, and therefore influencing the issues of focus as well as outcomes. Corporations, and not the people, are running the show.

In the past, I’ve posted the assertion that both major parties are bought and paid for by the same interests, and was met with “Cite?” so there it is. Since most of us watch TV, we’re inured to the corporate ownership and corporatization of almost every aspect of our lives because if you see it enough, it seems “normal”. Well, it’s not normal, and not exactly healthy to say the least. Every time I see a partisan argument, it makes me cringe. We are divided and conquered by those who would reap our earnings as well as our labor. ☹

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/46 "2008-09-17T02:38:16Z")

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But out of her hooha comes such gems as this:

[QUOTE=pinkyvee]  
Harpo was not glib, like Groucho.  
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That’s quite a vajayjay she’s got there.  
I haven’t laughed like that for days. Yes, indeed, that Harpo sure wasn’t glib… considering he never spoke in the films!  
It’s the best entertainment around, GD. Who knew?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/47 "2008-09-17T02:55:05Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
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> How does unintelligible rambing nonsense make one a troll? Idiocy can certainly be argued, but trolling isn’t the conclusion I would reach by reading the quoted post.

For the past few years every new poster that isn’t liked, for any reason, is always labeled a troll.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/48 "2008-09-17T03:15:33Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> she is RIPE FOR THE PICKING.

Like a nice juicy Blackberry? 😕

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/49 "2008-09-17T03:20:14Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I haven’t laughed like that for days. Yes, indeed, that Harpo sure wasn’t glib… considering he never spoke in the films!

But he sure wasn’t not glib when he didn’t speak… you can’t not say that about none of the others! Somewhere else she describes Harpo as a "well known misogynist " because his character always chased women around. I’m hoping she _meant_ the characters, but it’s unclear, and an insult to the real Harpo.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/50 "2008-09-17T08:24:43Z")

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Ya’ll realize she hasn’t found the Pit section yet?

BTW…is it really true there is a McCain and/or Republican board that lists “liberal” sites to go to and join to just annoy people or pretend you are “one of them” and respond? Seriously, someone told me that and I am not sure if it is just another Urban Legend, but supposedly they get “McCain points” (whatever that is worth) if they go out and spread the word. Has to be an UL, right?

If that should be true, give me a few Republican sites where I can go and stir up their pot. Would be happy to get me some “Obama points” (get 20 and get a free bumper sticker!?). Plus, it could be fun to debate people who type really, really slowly on their McCain Blackberries.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/51 "2008-09-17T11:04:44Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Our new friend pinky clearly isn’t intelligent enough to have actually [written this](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2008/09/22/080922sh_shouts_saunders?currentPage=all/), but I couldn’t help but have her in my mind as I read it, and as the tears of hysterical laughter rolled down my cheeks. Oh man, I can hardly breathe. ::SNORT::

This bit tickled me.

> [@](#):
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> So, when Barack Obama says he will put some lipstick on my pig, I am, like, Are you calling me a pig? If so, thanks! Pigs are the most non-Élite of all barnyard animals. And also, if you put lipstick on my pig, do you know what the difference will be between that pig and a pit bull? I’ll tell you: a pit bull can easily kill a pig. And, as the pig dies, guess what the Hockey Mom is doing? Going to her car, putting on more lipstick, so that, upon returning, finding that pig dead, she once again looks identical to that pit bull, which, staying on mission, the two of them step over the dead pig, looking exactly like twins, except the pit bull is scratching his lower ass with one frantic leg, whereas the Hockey Mom is carrying an extra hockey stick in case Todd breaks his again. But both are going, like, Ha ha, where’s that dumb pig now? Dead, that’s who, and also: not a smidge of lipstick.
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> A lose-lose for the pig.
> 
> There’s a lesson in that, I think.

Yes, STFU!

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/52 "2008-09-17T13:15:54Z")

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> [@5-4-Fighting](#):
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> That is a total misrepresentation of what Biden said (are you Republican?).
> 
> He is saying, when Obama is elected, his being black with be a significant historical and political achievement, not the reason for voting for him.

That shows total ignorance of what was said (you have **got** to be a Democrat). Yes, his being black would be a transformative event in American politics, and therefore that’s **one of the reasons for voting for him.**

But back to the issue, tell [Lynn Forester de Rothschild, member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/), who is going to endorse McCain today, that she’s really a Republican troll.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/53 "2008-09-17T13:25:16Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> But he sure wasn’t not glib when he didn’t speak… you can’t not say that about none of the others! Somewhere else she describes Harpo as a "well known misogynist " because his character always chased women around. I’m hoping she _meant_ the characters, but it’s unclear, and an insult to the real Harpo.

I’m under the impression that she doesn’t know the difference between the Marx Bros characters and themselves… Groucho glib? Funny as hell, snarky and witty, but glib? Only when in character (and not even always then).

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/54 "2008-09-17T13:38:37Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
But back to the issue, tell [Lynn Forester de Rothschild, member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/), who is going to endorse McCain today, that she’s really a Republican troll.  
[/QUOTE]  
Gotta love her alleged reasoning for backing McCain - that Obama’s too “elitist” for her.

Yep, when you’re a de Rothschild and have been down in the trenches fighting for the rights of the common woman/man, knocking back those boilermakers with Hillary Clinton, it’s just too much to have some fancy-pants intellectual snob like Obama take it all away. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/55 "2008-09-17T13:41:48Z")

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bit icky

the problem with thinking with your vagina is you end up being bloody minded every month

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/56 "2008-09-17T13:47:15Z")

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> [@Oregon\_sunshine](#):
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> Need more? [This site](http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/index.php) has charts showing political contributions from different industries, how much, and proportion of contribution to each party. The proportions may differ slightly, but guess what? _Industries_ are funding our elections, and therefore influencing the issues of focus as well as outcomes. Corporations, and not the people, are running the show.
> 
> In the past, I’ve posted the assertion that both major parties are bought and paid for by the same interests, and was met with “Cite?” so there it is. Since most of us watch TV, we’re inured to the corporate ownership and corporatization of almost every aspect of our lives because if you see it enough, it seems “normal”. Well, it’s not normal, and not exactly healthy to say the least. Every time I see a partisan argument, it makes me cringe. We are divided and conquered by those who would reap our earnings as well as our labor. ☹

I think you’re misinterpreting this, to say the least. Corporations do not own our government. They donate money to candidates and elected officials so they can get favors from them later; the companies you mentioned donate to both sides because _gasp_ they’re large, and they know that in some areas that they operate, Democrats will be elected, and in others, Republicans will. So they donate to both sides and make sure that no matter who’s in power, they still have a say.

Also, keep in mind that there are many individuals who’ve donated more money than those companies. Would you say that George Soros and William F. Buckley have ever run this country?

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/57 "2008-09-17T14:21:16Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I’m under the impression that she doesn’t know the difference between the Marx Bros characters and themselves… Groucho glib? Funny as hell, snarky and witty, but glib? Only when in character (and not even always then).

I’m trying to figure out where she got the idea that Harpo was a misogynist. It’s been a while since I read _Harpo Speaks!_, but I don’t remember anything in it (or anything else I’ve read about him) that would indicate that?

I thought of asking her for a cite, but realized that would be a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/58 "2008-09-17T14:44:59Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> I think you’re misinterpreting this, to say the least. Corporations do not own our government. They donate money to candidates and elected officials so they can get favors from them later; the companies you mentioned donate to both sides because _gasp_ they’re large, and they know that in some areas that they operate, Democrats will be elected, and in others, Republicans will. So they donate to both sides and make sure that no matter who’s in power, they still have a say.
> 
> Also, keep in mind that there are many individuals who’ve donated more money than those companies. Would you say that George Soros and William F. Buckley have ever run this country?

Why should corps get anymore special favors then the average person? I’d rather my government was concerned more with keeping jobs in the economy then big deficit causing tax give aways to the rich, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/59 "2008-09-17T14:52:16Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> I’m trying to figure out where she got the idea that Harpo was a misogynist. It’s been a while since I read _Harpo Speaks!_, but I don’t remember anything in it (or anything else I’ve read about him) that would indicate that?

Zero. Particularly compared to Chico, if you know where that nickname came from, or arguably to Groucho.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinkivee-stop-thinking-with-your-vagina/463863/60 "2008-09-17T14:55:36Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> That shows total ignorance of what was said (you have **got** to be a Democrat). Yes, his being black would be a transformative event in American politics, and therefore that’s **one of the reasons for voting for him.**

No he didn’t.

> [@](#):
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> But back to the issue, tell [Lynn Forester de Rothschild, member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/), who is going to endorse McCain today, that she’s really a Republican troll.

Never heard of the bitch, but from what I read, she sounds like a stuck up, racist snob, Good riddance.

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