# Pinned thread request over in Mundane.

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**Created:** [June 17, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172 "2013-06-17T11:59:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/21 "2013-06-19T02:07:01Z")

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The first Zimmerman/Martin thread train wrecked March 2012. So far the current one is clinging to the rails. I’ve read very little of it. It’s been a long, long time since any new information came out in the news. Other than routine court motions.

The trial is just now gearing up. We’ll finally get some court testimony to discuss pretty soon. I started this thread primarily to discuss where the daily court summaries news links should go.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/22 "2013-06-19T02:45:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’d be all for it, because that thread is next to useless at the moment. It’s too full of people arguing before they had any information.
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> If you don’t do a news thread, at least do an “informed speculation thread” to get it away from the acrimony of the original thread. Everyone in that thread is as mad at each other as a GD thread. Actually, I’m not entirely sure why it wasn’t moved to GD, since apparently this is a very contentious issue with people assuming the other side is either racist or stupid. People aren’t just sharing their opinions, but are villifying each other over said opinions.
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> That thread is popular because of a few people who won’t let it rest, not because everyone is reading it.

It was already a thread to get away from the acrimony of the original thread.

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**Author:** ![Mathematics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@Mathematics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathematics)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/23 "2013-06-19T03:24:50Z")

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Instead of pinning the thread, why not request a moderator to add in a link to it in the first post of the main thread?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/24 "2013-06-19T05:06:27Z")

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Isn’t it sort of against the board’s remit to just post links to external news stories without commentary? I mean, I know that this Zimmerman case is of interest to some people, and I appreciate that. But this board’s not a news aggregator. There are lots of other places you can go if you want raw news. And I don’t believe this is anything we’ve ever done before. I guess my question to the people who are advocating this is, why should we do it (beyond the obvious that you want to get news about the case.) What makes this special that the board should change what it normally does?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/25 "2013-06-19T06:03:16Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I guess my question to the people who are advocating this is, why should we do it (beyond the obvious that you want to get news about the case.) What makes this special that the board should change what it normally does?

I’m confused. What’s the downside? Where is this superior news aggregator? Google news is all algorithmic.

Admittedly, the news thread might turn out to be pretty lame, so I wouldn’t go with my forum idea until many moons pass. I suppose there are reasonable arguments against having a sticky, but attempts to essentially divide the postings into categories don’t seem misguided.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/26 "2013-06-19T11:45:41Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’d be all for it, because that thread is next to useless at the moment. It’s too full of people arguing before they had any information.

Why is that useless? That’s exactly what IMHO threads are for, people to offer their humble opinions. That those opinions may be based on airy nothings is neither here nor there, it isn’t the Debate forum.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/27 "2013-06-19T12:14:04Z")

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Can anyone explain why this case is so different that it warrants special treatment? How is it different than any ‘trial of the summer’, we’ve all seen so many of? How is this different from Casey Whhats her name or OJ? Some how we all managed just as much opinion, conjecture, discussion. I could see starting a new thread only about news releases being discussed, but no discussion, just news links seems just silly. I just don’t see the need, but perhaps I’m not understanding the intent fully.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/28 "2013-06-19T15:31:38Z")

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As an IMHO moderator, I think a new thread when the trial begins would be good. Just to start fresh and talk about the trial as it unfolds. Of course it doesn’t have to be in IMHO, but that’s where the long-running one is.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/29 "2013-06-19T16:37:47Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Can anyone explain why this case is so different that it warrants special treatment? How is it different than any ‘trial of the summer’, we’ve all seen so many of? How is this different from Casey Whhats her name or OJ? Some how we all managed just as much opinion, conjecture, discussion. I could see starting a new thread only about news releases being discussed, but no discussion, just news links seems just silly. I just don’t see the need, but perhaps I’m not understanding the intent fully.

It isn’t any different. And the long thread in question is just basically half a dozen posters arguing with each other.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/30 "2013-06-19T17:04:25Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Why is that useless? That’s exactly what IMHO threads are for, people to offer their humble opinions. That those opinions may be based on airy nothings is neither here nor there, it isn’t the Debate forum.

You must remember that, for BigT, all threads on the Dope _must_ be written with his specific interests in mind. If you don’t, he will make a post scolding you about not conforming specifically to his personal needs.\*

So…I think we need a new Zimmerman thread in addition to any others, just to suit BigT.

\*[He will then get a mod-note about it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16382558&postcount=35)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/31 "2013-06-19T19:23:55Z")

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A fresh imho trial thread may be the best solution. Whenever opening statements kick off will be a good time.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/32 "2013-06-19T20:57:05Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I suppose there are reasonable arguments against having a sticky, but attempts to essentially divide the postings into categories don’t seem misguided.

Downsides to dedicated newslink threads:

1. Drama ensues when people’s commentary gets deleted from the link thread.
2. Drama ensues when people’s commentary does not get deleted from the link thread, due to admin’s jackbooted _laissez faire_ policy.
3. Crackpots will love newslink threads: no commentary allowed! At least not in the thread that they view! Even when they link to Nutso News!
4. Drama ensues when somebody doesn’t like having blog links mixed in with legitimate news sources.
5. Drama ensues during the discussion of what a legitimate news source is. Judith Miller!
6. We had a newslink thread for the Zimmerman trial, why can’t we have one for shape-shifting lizard-men? Censorship!

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/33 "2013-06-19T21:00:57Z")

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I personally don’t care about links for the Zimmerman one anymore.

Because now I utterly demand that we have a newslinks thread for the shape-shifting lizard-men.

WE MUST KNOW THE TRUTH!!! ✊

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pinned-thread-request-over-in-mundane/661172/34 "2013-06-20T21:05:26Z")

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I started the Trial thread over in imho as suggested. Hopefully a fresh start will encourage lively and informed discussion. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

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