# Piper Cub becomes a KISS fan **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 7, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691 "2017-07-07T14:45:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/1 "2017-07-07T14:45:55Z")
Much to my surprise, the Cub has become a KISS fan, based on his extensive research into [Scooby-Doo! & KISS: Rock and Roll Mystery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo!_and_Kiss:_Rock_and_Roll_Mystery). He now wants to go to a KISS concert. I’m thinking that a DVD might be a better option. Is there a good KISS concert DVD that you guys would recommend? ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/2 "2017-07-07T16:28:28Z")
Well, if he enjoyed a Scooby-Doo movie, he might enjoy _KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park_. I seem to be one of the few people on the planet who will admit to having watched it, but when I was in elementary school, I thoroughly enjoyed it. > **[Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_Meets_the_Phantom_of_the_Park)** > > Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park (also known as Attack of the Phantoms in Europe and Kiss Phantoms in Italy) is a 1978 American television film starring American hard rock band Kiss and produced by Hanna-Barbera Productions. The movie's plot revolves around Kiss, who use their superpowers to battle an evil inventor (Abner Devereaux, played by Anthony Zerbe) and to save a California amusement park from destruction. > NBC aired the film at the height of Kiss's popularity in the United States. D... > [@](#): > > by Wikipedia > > In recent years, Kiss’ public statements concerning the film have been a mixture of bemusement and disgust. On VH1’s When Kiss Ruled the World program, Gene Simmons stated that, “It’s a classic movie… classic movie if you’re on drugs,” while Ace Frehley said that “I couldn’t stop laughing from the beginning of the moment to the end” In an early-1990s Sterling-McFadden magazine interview, Simmons compared the film to the infamous B-movie classic Plan 9 from Outer Space, joking that the two films would make a perfect drive-in double feature. > > In the years since its initial airing, Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park has achieved cult status, mainly among Kiss fans.[2] The European edit of the film (which removes most of Ace Frehley’s dialogue) is available on DVD as part of Kissology Volume Two: 1978–1991, a collection of concerts and television appearances. Amazon has Kissology. Also the VHS version of the movie, though the tape is more expensive than the Kissology DVD. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/3 "2017-07-07T20:46:36Z")
What is Kissilogy? Does it have concerts on it? I don’t think he wants another movie, but more of a concert experience. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/4 "2017-07-07T21:01:44Z")
> **[Kissology Volume Two: 1978–1991](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissology_Volume_Two:_1978%E2%80%931991)** > > Kissology Volume Two: 1978–1991 is a DVD/Home Video that was released by Kiss on August 14, 2007. It contains three discs, plus one of three separate bonus discs sold only within initial first pressings. Some initial packages included a replica ticket to Magic Mountain for Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park. The box set was certified six times Platinum. This set was preceded by Kissology Vol. 1, and is followed by Kissology Vol. 3, which was released in early December 2007. > The bonus discs conta... ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/5 "2017-07-07T21:04:02Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Much to my surprise, the Cub has become a KISS fan, based on his extensive research into [Scooby-Doo! & KISS: Rock and Roll Mystery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo!_and_Kiss:_Rock_and_Roll_Mystery). > > He now wants to go to a KISS concert. > > I’m thinking that a DVD might be a better option. > > Is there a good KISS concert DVD that you guys would recommend? > **[Archie Meets KISS: Segura, Alex, Parent, Dan: 9781936975044: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Archie-Meets-KISS-Alex-Segura/dp/1936975041)** > > Archie Meets KISS \[Segura, Alex, Parent, Dan\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Archie Meets KISS That, & some of their music. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/6 "2017-07-07T21:36:50Z")
Right, thanks, I see there are three Kissology volumes, plus Kiss Rocks Vegas. Any suggestions which would be the best for a junior fan? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/7 "2017-07-07T22:26:26Z")
Hey **Piper** , I have “KISS - Love it Loud - Live in Concert 2012.” It has 17 songs from early to late hits. Sure, because it’s recorded in 2012 it’s not the original Ace or Peter (Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer respectively) but I dare anyone to tell the difference. I think that would be perfect for **The Cub**. It doesn’t have a total time on it, but it’s probably about 90 minutes. ETA: Actually I see the entire [98 minute concert](https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwi07-L3m_jUAhXC2D4KHUQhAHwQtwIIJjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Da_0blHOHjc4&usg=AFQjCNGLkHHD_8NHjEXgRYvTd6BioE-T7g&cad=rja) is available on YouTube. Fire it up! ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/8 "2017-07-07T23:07:35Z")
One of the DVDs in Kissology is the Budokan 1977 concert, when the original band was firing on all cylinders. You can probably find most of it on youtube–here’s something to get you started: [Detroit Rock City](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfiV77Q_8zk&list=RDVfiV77Q_8zk#t=65). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/piper-cub-becomes-a-kiss-fan/790691/9 "2017-07-08T14:49:45Z")
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Will check them out.