# Pirate Master: The rest of season one **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800 "2007-06-28T18:12:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/41 "2007-07-08T20:14:42Z")
Must be some Baseball All Star games on Thursdays. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/42 "2007-07-08T21:00:02Z")
Nope. Looks like they are counter-programming the All-Star Game, which is Tuesday. Thursday the regular schedule kicks in again for baseball. They probably figured the only way someone was going to watch this turkey is to put it somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/43 "2007-07-09T13:56:05Z")
And since it appears that it will not appear until 10 pm in my time zone (Eastern), the likelihood that I will turn off my tv and go to bed before the episode ends is high. (I could record it–but I’m not sure it’s worth the effort. Although in fairness, part of that is due to bad reception on my tv, not bad show design). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/44 "2007-07-11T06:14:34Z")
Wow. They voted off Joe Don. That was really stupid. These guys are clueless. They need to sabotage the Black Team by having someone “go slow”, then they put Ass-myth and his officers on the block and vote them off one by one. Stupid, stupid, stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/45 "2007-07-11T09:05:42Z")
So that black team wins not by solving a clue but by following the red team when THEY figured out the clue. That’s fair :rolleyes: How about having each team go through different but similar trails to get to the same place (the treasure)? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/46 "2007-07-11T11:58:48Z")
Worst episode ever. For all the “let’s tire them out” strategy, the black team never had any real lead and even had to follow the red team when they couldn’t figure out the clue. This has been the show’s failure all along. It is just a foot race. The puzzles are not too demanding and if you don’t know what you are doing, you can just tag along the other team. It was the same deal last week, when they got the telescope wet. And I just can’t believe how stupid they are not to sabotage the black team. Although this week it would have been difficult. The two other team members were the least anti-azmyth of the crew. I guess they have all done the math in their heads and figured that the current state of affairs can’t hold much longer. Soon there won’t be enough players to keep doing the competing crews, and the triad not voting / being voted. Maybe they are all just trying to personally survive until then. And keeping Rupert over Zho-dan? please. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/47 "2007-07-11T13:46:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] Worst episode ever. For all the “let’s tire them out” strategy, the black team never had any real lead and even had to follow the red team when they couldn’t figure out the clue. This has been the show’s failure all along. It is just a foot race. The puzzles are not too demanding and if you don’t know what you are doing, you can just tag along the other team. It was the same deal last week, when they got the telescope wet. [/QUOTE] Not really. The Red Team had the idea to just go for the island before the Black Team even got there. They didn’t follow the Black Team the way the Black Team follwed them this week. But I agree that this was a terrible episode, and that the treasure hunts needs to be designed better. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/48 "2007-07-11T14:56:22Z")
The show needs a major rule change to make mutiny an attractive option for the officers. Off the top of my head: “If the officers consent to a mutiny, they immediately take a third, each, of the ex-captain’s booty share from the latest treasure.” I had the show on last night as background sound, but I wasn’t watching. Without some major change next week, I’m not going to bother with even that much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/49 "2007-07-11T14:59:09Z")
Well, on the next week’s preview, one of the officers appeared saying that he would go for a mutiny without hesitation. Here is hoping. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/50 "2007-07-11T15:03:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] Well, on the next week’s preview, one of the officers appeared saying that he would go for a mutiny without hesitation. Here is hoping. [/QUOTE] These shows are notorious for editing the previews to make them look like something they’re not. I’ll wait until we see what the context is before I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/51 "2007-07-11T15:17:17Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] For all the “let’s tire them out” strategy, the black team never had any real lead and even had to follow the red team when they couldn’t figure out the clue. [/QUOTE] There’s obviously some rule that each team has to stick together, so really, your speed is governed by the slowest member on each team. Even overworked and underfed, Joe Don and Louie were still faster than Kendra. And trying to tire out Kendra isn’t a good strategy for the triad (ick) because she might wind up on their team. (That doesn’t apply to joint tasks, like hauling that cask up the hillside with ropes. And it might pay off in the long term, Louie will be even more tired and hungry next week.) > [@](#): > > And I just can’t believe how stupid they are not to sabotage the black team. Although this week it would have been difficult. The two other team members were the least anti-azmyth of the crew. Yeah, that seems to me to be the obvious thing to do, but I haven’t thought it all the way through. They’ll have to convince the women (more than one, so they have a better chance of getting one on the black team) to throw the treasure hunt. The new officers are picked, and they probably give Azmyth, Jay and Ben the next black spots, to guarantee getting rid of one of them. So where does that leave our saboteur? She can’t be one of the officers (since they’re selected from the winning team), so if a new cabal forms, she won’t be part of it. And the two remaining members of the triad will be gunning for her, and (if they wind up on the same team) have a good chance of winning the following hunt and putting her on the spot. For anyone who could actually be the saboteur, it’s not an open-and-shut case to do it. Saw a small tribute to Laura on the show this week, but I had to know just where to look. Next week, there are rumblings of mutiny. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/52 "2007-07-11T16:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=Robot Arm] So where does that leave our saboteur? She can’t be one of the officers (since they’re selected from the winning team), so if a new cabal forms, she won’t be part of it. And the two remaining members of the triad will be gunning for her, and (if they wind up on the same team) have a good chance of winning the following hunt and putting her on the spot. [/QUOTE] Hadn’t thought of that. Then again, the men proposing the idea could have hoped that the rest wouldn’t think of that either. Too late for that, anyways. Joe Don is gone, Louie won’t think of it, and the girls don’t have that much of an interest on doing it. As it stands, I can see Louie being the next to go. Then it is down to only three voters. That system is abou to break real soon. The girls have a better chance individually trying to curry the favour of the triad and hope to survive until the voting system is abandoned for whatever it is that will follow for the final six or earlier. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/53 "2007-07-11T16:22:55Z")
I think the elimination of Joe Don, is everyone assumption (or maybe they just know more then we do) of the challenges turning more individual soon. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/54 "2007-07-11T18:06:08Z")
[QUOTE=FlightlessBird] I think the elimination of Joe Don, is everyone assumption (or maybe they just know more then we do) of the challenges turning more individual soon. [/QUOTE] That would be a good move. Whoever wins the challenge gets to be Captain. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/55 "2007-07-11T18:48:14Z")
One of the problems is that the only person who seems to be thinking at all (or the only one who has gotten a “thinking” edit), is Jay. The rest seem to be monumentally clueless. Joe Don’s speech was all the reasons I hated him “they’re going…to pick… you…off, one by one…I’m…warning you.” Wow, a person gets eliminated every week. Just like the rules of the show say. Thank goodness he’s gone. Maybe he’ll regain the will to shave. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/56 "2007-07-13T19:34:52Z")
On the teaser for next week’s show, they mentioned something about the “ghosts of the past” coming back. I think they may be planning to put one of the exiled contestants back in the game. If they do go to individual challenges, they would do well to correct a glaring problem with the expeditions. This week, the Red crew found the “X” before the Black. But as soon as they started digging, the Black just followed them there and dug up the treasure first. The challenges need to take place at opposite sides of the island if they’re truly going to reward the better crew (or individual). ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/57 "2007-07-17T20:08:40Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] On the teaser for next week’s show, they mentioned something about the “ghosts of the past” coming back. I think they may be planning to put one of the exiled contestants back in the game. [/QUOTE] Today’s newspaper said that the eliminated contestants come back to fight for treasure – possibly even the previously found treasure. Somehow, I suspect that this won’t be enough to raise interest in the show; I’ll drop it after tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/58 "2007-07-18T00:36:29Z")
I’m only still watching it out of inertia. Some of the twists – bribery being a readily available option; mixing of the teams each week – are a definite improvement on Survivor, IMO, but others – requiring the officers to agree to a mutiny – are just stupid, and it sure looks at this point like we’re going to have a straight pagonging from here on out. If something doesn’t happen to change it, and fast, I’m probably gone after this week, too. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/59 "2007-07-18T03:06:59Z")
[QUOTE=Mama Tiger] I’m only still watching it out of inertia. Some of the twists – bribery being a readily available option; mixing of the teams each week – are a definite improvement on Survivor, IMO, but others – requiring the officers to agree to a mutiny – are just stupid, and it sure looks at this point like we’re going to have a straight pagonging from here on out. If something doesn’t happen to change it, and fast, I’m probably gone after this week, too. [/QUOTE] Right. Making the officer have to go along with the mutiny makes it nearly impossible. It should have been 1 out of 2 officers that have to agree. Then the captain has further motivation to keep them happy. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800/60 "2007-07-18T03:09:29Z")
“I thought you had the key.” Morons. No part of this game makes sense. I just noticed something tonight. Three players get the black spots. The captain gets to explain why he gave the black spots to those three, and then each of them has a chance to defend herself, and they all talk to the captain. Why? The captain isn’t voting for you. It’s the remaining players who can kick you off the ship, explain yourself to them. For those who were thinking of bailing, I’m gonna guess that this episode didn’t convince you to stick around. I’m in it to the end; if y’all have any questions, I’ll be around. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirate-master-the-rest-of-season-one/409800.md?page=4)