# Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead man's Chest **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932 "2005-03-30T12:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/1 "2005-03-30T12:59:12Z")
No I’m not kidding, it’s up on IMDB that their working on PotC 2 now and it is due out in 2006. Here’s the [IMDB link](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383574/). Looks like we’re going to see the return of my favorite pirate, Pintel. You know, the friend of the guy with the wooden eye. Why? I can’t imagine other than to placate fans. But he’s there. And looks like there’s going to be some flashback as they’ve listed Stellan Stersgard as Bootstrap Bill. Not quite the casting I was expecting. But I suppose he can make it work. Thoughts? Opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/2 "2005-03-30T13:03:36Z")
YAY! That’s all I gots to say! ---
**Author:** ![DrMemory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@DrMemory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrMemory)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/3 "2005-03-30T13:04:40Z")
I went to school with Lee Arenberg, and he was an affable chap way back when. I didn’t know he went into acting, and was quite surprized to see his name in the credits. Did a quick google search, and there he was. Ya never know where old friends turn up. He’s actually the second person I went to school with who has turned to acting. the other was a nice stoner-dude named Emilio Estevez. With his family background, tho, I guess he was a natural. ---
**Author:** ![TwoTrouts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TwoTrouts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoTrouts)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/4 "2005-03-30T13:11:02Z")
I read somewhere that Keith Richards had been cast as Jack Sparrow’s father, but I do not see his name in the cast listings. Maybe it was for PotC 3, which is also in production. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/5 "2005-03-30T13:14:31Z")
> [@TwoTrouts](#): > > I read somewhere that Keith Richards had been cast as Jack Sparrow’s father, but I do not see his name in the cast listings. Maybe it was for PotC 3, which is also in production. I never heard it as official, I only heard that Depp was encouraging the casting. So we’ll see if they might be keeping it under wraps or if it never came to fruition… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/6 "2005-03-30T13:22:22Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > No I’m not kidding, it’s up on IMDB that their working on PotC 2 now and it is due out in 2006. Here’s the [IMDB link](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383574/). Looks like we’re going to see the return of my favorite pirate, Pintel. You know, the friend of the guy with the wooden eye. Why? I can’t imagine other than to placate fans. But he’s there. > > And looks like there’s going to be some flashback as they’ve listed Stellan Stersgard as Bootstrap Bill. Not quite the casting I was expecting. But I suppose he can make it work. > > Thoughts? Opinions? Doesn’t have to be a flashback. I always thought one of the plot holes was 'Where was Bootstrap Bill? 1. He’s under the curse. 2. They dump him over the side weighted down 3. He **can’t** be killed. 4. He hits bottom in the Caribbean (can’t be TOO deep) 5. He walks to shore underwater So it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that he’s out there somewhere…no longer under the curse and living some form of life. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/7 "2005-03-30T13:24:00Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > I never heard it as official, I only heard that Depp was encouraging the casting. So we’ll see if they might be keeping it under wraps or if it never came to fruition… If I had to guess, I’d say Richards would only be in it for a quick joke (since the plot seems to be more about Boostrap, Will’s dad, and Elizabeth’s dad will probably return as well), and doesn’t merit full credits at this early stage. POTC was surprisingly fun. I’m looking forward to this. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/8 "2005-03-30T14:00:58Z")
Woooo!!! I can’t wait!!! I wonder if the official release date will be September 19, 2006? ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/9 "2005-03-30T14:03:57Z")
Yes, I’m looking forward to it too. In addition to Depp, they kept the same writers which was really, really important. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/10 "2005-03-30T14:29:19Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > 1. He hits bottom in the Caribbean (can’t be TOO deep) Oh yes it can. The Turks & Caicos Bank is about 50 to 70 feet deep – then you get to the wall, which drops off to at least several hundred feet. This is well below crush depth for normal people. But who knows how it would affect a zombie pirate? I’m definitely looking forward to PotC2. I’ll raise a mug o’ grog hoping that it’s more fun than the first one! ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/11 "2005-03-30T15:25:16Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Oh yes it can. The Turks & Caicos Bank is about 50 to 70 feet deep – then you get to the wall, which drops off to at least several hundred feet. This is well below crush depth for normal people. But who knows how it would affect a zombie pirate? Course he could have just untied himself on the way down and swan to the surface. Really, drowning is a stupid way to kill a zombie pirate. > [@](#): > > He’s actually the second person I went to school with who has turned to acting. the other was a nice stoner-dude named Emilio Estevez. With his family background, tho, I guess he was a natural. I loved him in _Wall Street_!! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/12 "2005-03-30T15:32:01Z")
> [@](#): > > POTC was surprisingly fun. I’m looking forward to this. > [@](#): > > No I’m not kidding, it’s up on IMDB that their working on PotC 2 So is POTC 2 about The Resurrection? Easter? And what’s it have to do with _Pirates of the Caribbean_? 😕 . . . . . . . . . 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/13 "2005-03-30T15:33:24Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > I never heard it as official, I only heard that Depp was encouraging the casting. So we’ll see if they might be keeping it under wraps or if it never came to fruition… > **[Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449088/)** > > Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End: Directed by Gore Verbinski. With Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley. Captain Barbossa, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann must sail off the edge of the map, navigate treachery and... It’s on IMDB so it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/14 "2005-03-30T17:06:19Z")
A few months ago there was a notice on the IMDB news section that representatives of the natives of some Caribbean island were upset that the sequel depicts them as cannibals, which they claim is historically inaccurate. A Disney spokesperson responded that the cannibalism angle was integral to the plot of the sequel, and could not be avoided. ---
**Author:** ![Jenny\_Haniver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Jenny\_Haniver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenny_Haniver)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/15 "2005-03-30T18:46:38Z")
…But why is the rum gone? Somebody had to say it. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/16 "2005-03-30T18:57:41Z")
Qued Spoiler Caribbean island were upset that the sequel depicts them as cannibals, which they claim is historically inaccurate. And Swashbuckling Zombie Pirates are? :rolleyes: The Director did direct the Mexican, but we can forgive him that. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/17 "2005-03-30T19:19:50Z")
> [@Malodorous](#): > > Course he could have just untied himself on the way down and swan to the surface. Really, drowning is a stupid way to kill a zombie pirate. > > I loved him in _Wall Street_!! Wrong Estevez. I heard that Richards hadn’t been confirmed, and they were just going to wing his participation–if he shows up that day (for presumably a cameo), then great. If not, well he is Keith Richards, so they aren’t going to depend too much on his participation. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/18 "2005-03-30T21:19:23Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > The Turks & Caicos Bank is about 50 to 70 feet deep – then you get to the wall, which drops off to at least several hundred feet. If by several you mean about 70, then you’re correct. 🙂 I was diving there just a year ago, and when I read your post I recalled that on the dive they mentioned that the wall went straight down for a _mile and a half!_ Sure enough, [this site](http://www.reefrunnerssc.com/diving.htm) says 7,000 feet deep. The trench is known as the Columbus Passage. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/19 "2005-03-30T21:46:24Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. He hits bottom in the Caribbean (can’t be TOO deep) And even if it is, hey, we all know he only stays there for 20 minutes. In 1660. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932/20 "2005-03-30T22:12:17Z")
I read on the IMDB message board that Keith Richards is asking for enormous amounts of money for a small cameo, so they’re thinking of 86’ing his part. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-mans-chest/296932.md?page=2)