# Pirates of the Caribbean..the Movie.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 19, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144 "2003-05-19T00:28:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/1 "2003-05-19T00:28:01Z")

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Actually the trailer looks pretty good. Is it the first movie made about an amusement park ride rather than vice/versa?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/2 "2003-05-19T00:53:14Z")

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Nope. Disney released a kids movie based on the “Country Bears” ride last year. Although I use “ride” in the loosest possible sense. The movie was, by all accounts, atrocious.

I’m very psyched for the Pirates movie, though. Zombies? And pirates? In the same movie? It’ll be better than _Citizen Kane_!

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/3 "2003-05-19T01:09:53Z")

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Orlando Bloom? And Johnny Depp? In the same movie?

What more reason do you need to watch?

::drool::

Plot? Who needs a plot? I’m just looking at the pretty pretty boys…

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/4 "2003-05-19T01:29:59Z")

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Is there a link somewhere with information about the film?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/5 "2003-05-19T01:58:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Baker \*  
> \*\*Is there a link somewhere with information about the film? \*\*

> **[Pirates of the Caribbean Movies presented by Disney](https://pirates.disney.com/movies)**
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> Browse the list of Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

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**Author:** ![teleute12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@teleute12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teleute12)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/6 "2003-05-19T05:31:51Z")

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Mmm, Orli and Johnny. Miss Knightley doesn’t look half-bad, either, and I’m sure that there’s someone out there who fancies Geoffrey Rush. This must set some record for the prettiest cast ever.

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**Author:** ![ratty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ccd318/32.png) [@ratty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratty)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/7 "2003-05-19T05:39:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by teleute12 \*  
> \*\*Mmm, Orli and Johnny. Miss Knightley doesn’t look half-bad, either, and I’m sure that there’s someone out there who fancies Geoffrey Rush. \*\*

Heh, that would be me. Though I have been nursing a Johnny Depp crush for the past 10 years. [squeal]He’s wearing mascara! I love men in mascara![/squeal] I’m interested to see how Orlando Bloom does in this movie. He looks stunning in LotR, but I’m not convinced he can actually act.

Saw the trailer before _Matrix: Reloaded_. I’m pretty sure this will be a “guilty pleasure” movie. From the trailer, the plot looks non-existent and the dialogue sounds horrifying, but as **Miller** pointed out, zombies AND pirates! And ZOMBIE PIRATES! I’m so there. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/8 "2003-05-19T13:23:24Z")

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How long has it been since there has been a successful pirate movie?

Unfortunately, even with JD starring, this movie will bomb.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/9 "2003-05-19T13:32:30Z")

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Well, lessee… there was The Pirates of Penzance with Kevin Kline, back in 1983. There was Pirates by Roman Polanski with Walter Matthau in I think 1986. Ah, and then there was Cutthroat Island in 1995 with Geena Davis, which - forgive me - I actually liked.

Or maybe it’s Hook with Robin Williams…

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/10 "2003-05-19T13:36:05Z")

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Like I said, “How long has it been since there has been a SUCCESSFUL pirate movie”.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/11 "2003-05-20T20:27:14Z")

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Hey! How about _Swashbuckler_ with Robert Shaw!

Oh wait, _successful_… never mind.

Has there ever been a really successful pirate movie in the modern era? By successful, I assume you mean money-making?

It won’t matter if this one sucks, it will make a boatload of money.

I am there.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/12 "2003-05-20T20:44:57Z")

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> Has there ever been a really successful pirate movie in the modern era? By successful, I assume you mean money-making?

[Annoyingly pedantic nitpick]  
The “modern era” goes all the way back to the beginning of the twentieth century. Technically, there’s no such thing as a “pre-modern” movie, as the cinema was an invention (and in many ways the primary cultural motivator) of modernism. Pirate movies as a viable genre died out around the rise of post-modernism in the late '50s, although I don’t know that there’s necessarily a connection.  
[/Annoyingly pedantic nitpick]

I liked _Cutthroat Island_, too. And _Pirates!_ Hey, anyone remember _Yellowbeard_? “Stagger stagger stagger roll crawl crawl stagger…” I don’t think it’s physically possible to make an unwatchable pirate movie.

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/13 "2003-05-20T20:59:04Z")

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This brings up an interesting point – what did “Captain Blood” and “The Seahawk” have that “Cutthroat Island” and “Hook” didn’t? Well, besides Errol Flynn…mmmmmm, Errol Fl- okay, there’s the answer.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/14 "2003-05-20T21:01:14Z")

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Is it just me, or is there a serious decline going on in Hollyweird?

Lessee:

Movies made from old 60s TV shows.

Lost in Space, Mission Impossible. Check!  
Movies made from comic books.

Superman, Batman, X-Men, Green Lantern, Flash. Check!  
_Movies made from theme park rides?_

WTF? Check!

When you’re designing a movie based on a theme park’s ride, you are scraping the barrel’s bottom. Hollyweird is bankrupt.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/15 "2003-05-20T21:03:26Z")

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I think the last successful pirate movie was _the Crimson Pirate_, with Burt Lancaster.

Now, if this new one is only one tenth as good…

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/16 "2003-05-20T21:19:56Z")

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I’ve always enjoyed Minelli’s _The Pirate_ with Gene Kelly and Judy Garland, myself.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/17 "2003-05-20T21:31:24Z")

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> When you’re designing a movie based on a theme park’s ride, you are scraping the barrel’s bottom. Hollyweird is bankrupt.

If Hollywood were bankrupt, this wouldn’t be a problem. Unfortunetly, Hollywood will continue to make this crap so long as people continue to shell out huge amounts of money for it.

And God help me, I’m one of them.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/18 "2003-05-20T21:40:50Z")

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Obviously, as my name indicates, I’m karmic-ly bound to see this one, good or bad. But it looks pretty fun, and one of my friends has been quoting that line about the corsets for weeks. Guess I’ll just have to get my booty on over when it comes to a local theater.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/19 "2003-05-21T03:24:27Z")

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Hey, _Captain Ron_ had Caribbean pirates and it was one of the best movies ever!

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**Author:** ![Goofus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7feea3/32.png) [@Goofus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Goofus)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/20 "2003-05-21T03:48:03Z")

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Don’t forget _The Ice Pirates_!

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