# Pirates of the Caribbean..the Movie. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144 "2003-05-19T00:28:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/41 "2003-05-22T00:15:55Z")
Mmm…swashbuckling, Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Geoffrey Rush. I don’t care if the movie’s based on a Bazooka Joe cartoon, there’s no way I’m missing it. My husband has promised to come along and wipe the drool off my chin. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/42 "2003-05-22T06:09:58Z")
\ They took out Mr.Toad’s Wild Ride in Orlando to put in the new WTP ride (which I have not ridden but am assuming it sucks) and also replaced the wonderfully inventive puppetry of the Legend of the Lion King with something involving MIckey and a symphony.Ugh. Whose idea was that?Idjets.\ IDBB ---
**Author:** ![Manatee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Manatee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manatee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/43 "2003-05-22T06:27:43Z")
Part of the appeal of Disney’s theme park attractions has always been their storylines. As a ride, “The Pirates of the Caribbean” already has a workable plot. So why fashion a new one with this movie? The Haunted Mansion, though, doesn’t have (much) of a plot, so maybe a movie could help (although as described above, it doesn’t sound likely). Given the importance of story, I’m always amazed that Disney spent so much money on “Splash Mountain.” After all, it’s based on a movie that almost nobody has seen and that Disney refuses to rerelease. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/44 "2003-05-22T06:45:43Z")
[hijack] **Manatee** –while that may be true, the Uncle Remus stories from which the tale of Bre’r Rabbit and Bre’r Fox are taken is part of common American literature and almost everyone knows the story of Bre’r Rabbit and the Tar Baby. Plus…who doesn’t know the tune (at the very least)to Zip A Dee Doo Dah?🙂 I love SM,tbh, because it’s a cute ride that leaves you singing merrily the rest of the day.[/hijack] IDBB ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/45 "2003-05-22T07:49:59Z")
Can’t wait to see what they do with Space Mountain. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/46 "2003-05-22T10:32:57Z")
I own Song of the South, and I haven’t yet had coffee, so bear with me… Splash Mountain is based on it? ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/47 "2003-05-22T12:36:52Z")
What about [The Pirate Movie](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0084504) way back in 1982? Surely that was a hit? Right? I mean, I even bought the unopened, vinyl soundtrack off of E-Bay not too many moons ago. Please? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/48 "2003-05-22T14:17:20Z")
The Pirate Movie! You beat me to it, one of my faves as a youngster, I swooned endlessly over Kristy McNichol. If I recall, the movie was the first to really parody the Star Wars films, with a very silly lightsaber scene 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/49 "2003-05-22T14:30:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Manatee \* > \*\* > > The Haunted Mansion, though, doesn’t have (much) of a plot, so maybe a movie could help (although as described above, it doesn’t sound likely). > > \*\* Actually, it has a bit -too- much of a plot. Go to [www.hauntedmansion.com](http://www.hauntedmansion.com) and look around. I just can’t see their proposed cast / idea making a good movie, though. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/50 "2003-05-22T14:45:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Manatee \* > \*\*Part of the appeal of Disney’s theme park attractions has always been their storylines. As a ride, “The Pirates of the Caribbean” already has a workable plot. So why fashion a new one with this movie? > > The Haunted Mansion, though, doesn’t have (much) of a plot, so maybe a movie could help (although as described above, it doesn’t sound likely). > > \*\* The Phantom Manor at Disneyland Paris has a bit more plot than the US counterparts. The house is where a wedding was supposed to take place but the groom never showed. I wonder what it is like at Disney Tokoyo? ---
**Author:** ![HazyBaby33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HazyBaby33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazyBaby33)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/51 "2003-05-22T19:26:22Z")
ORLANDO BLOOM!!! OH MY GOSH!!! AAAAAHHHHH! **drool,faint** (I think that’s enough reason for me to go see it…😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/52 "2003-05-22T19:37:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zebra \* > The Phantom Manor at Disneyland Paris has a bit more plot than the US counterparts. The house is where a wedding was supposed to take place but the groom never showed. IIRC, the Haunted Mansion at Anaheim Disneyland mentions the wedding as part of the Doom Buggy spiel. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/53 "2003-05-22T20:26:48Z")
I am scared to death over what’s going to happen with Space Mountain. It’s been my favorite ride ever since it opened. I wish I’d ridden it one last time… ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/54 "2003-05-22T20:34:46Z")
It’s been a long time since I’ve been to Anaheim. Disney World doesn’t have a thing on it. Paris, of course had the creepy bride but also in the grand room, where at Disneyland/World there is a birthday party, the missing groom story is played out a little more there. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/55 "2003-05-22T21:13:22Z")
When I was a kid, there was a book all about the Haunted Mansion, and it came with a 45 rpm record with the story on one side and spooky sounds on the other. We used it as the soundtrack for all our haunted houses (well, haunted hallways, but hey, we were kids). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/56 "2003-05-22T21:27:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*I own Song of the South, and I haven’t yet had coffee, so bear with me… Splash Mountain is based on it? \*\* Absitively, posolutely. I take it you haven’t been to D-land lately? Yes, the ride is themed with Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear and other assorted Song of the South characters and music. Plus leftover animatronics cannibalized from the old America Sings attraction (which was itself built on top of the GE Carousel of Progress). ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/57 "2003-05-22T22:17:24Z")
Naw, it’s been a long time since I was there. I think they were building SM at the time. **Zebra** , you’re saying Disney **World** doesn’t have anything on Disney **Land**? What’s Land have that World doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Manatee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Manatee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manatee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/58 "2003-05-22T23:05:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > \*\*[hijack] **Manatee** –while that may be true, the Uncle Remus stories from which the tale of Bre’r Rabbit and Bre’r Fox are taken is part of common American literature and almost everyone knows the story of Bre’r Rabbit and the Tar Baby. Plus…who doesn’t know the tune (at the very least)to Zip A Dee Doo Dah?🙂 [/hijack] > > IDBB \*\* Yeah, but who knows what Disney did with those stories? Reading them’s one thing; seeing the Disney version is another (check out any of the fairy tales that Disney made a version of; the print versions usually differ wildly). And as for the songs, they’re only from the movie. Without it, we’re lacking context. ---
**Author:** ![Manatee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Manatee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manatee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/59 "2003-05-22T23:07:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ArrrMatey \* > \*\*Actually, it has a bit -too- much of a plot. Go to [www.hauntedmansion.com](http://www.hauntedmansion.com) and look around. I just can’t see their proposed cast / idea making a good movie, though. \*\* That’s one of my favorite sites! It’s important to note, though, that much of what it discusses is conceptual or fan-based; therefore, much of the “plot” on that site is before the fact or after, not present in the ride itself. I’d still maintain that even though many ideas were considered for the attraction, as it stands at Disneyland it’s by and large plotless. ---
**Author:** ![Manatee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Manatee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manatee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/60 "2003-05-22T23:09:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*IIRC, the Haunted Mansion at Anaheim Disneyland mentions the wedding as part of the Doom Buggy spiel. \*\* While she’s definitely in the attic, she’s not mentioned in the spiel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144.md?page=4)