# Pirates of the Caribbean..the Movie. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144 "2003-05-19T00:28:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/81 "2003-05-24T00:50:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\*Is it just me, or is there a serious decline going on in Hollyweird? > > Lessee: > > Movies made from old 60s TV shows. > > Lost in Space, Mission Impossible. Check! > Movies made from comic books. > > Superman, Batman, X-Men, Green Lantern, Flash. Check! > _Movies made from theme park rides?_ > > WTF? Check! > > When you’re designing a movie based on a theme park’s ride, you are scraping the barrel’s bottom. Hollyweird is bankrupt. \*\* [hijack, I guess] Movies have always drawn from other sources such as books and real life events. What’s wrong with drawing from more diverse sources, like comic books and TV shows, especially if the movie is good.[/h,ig] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/82 "2003-05-24T01:09:24Z")
I’d say there’s nothing wrong with it per se, but it seems that’s all Hollywood makes anymore. Original works are being squeezed out by “safe” movies using familiar names. Hell, The Matrix deserves praise for being a major science fiction movie that isn’t based on a novel/comic/TV show. How many of those do you see these days? I suppose you could count Star Wars technically, but the new ones are basically trading on brand recognition of a product that first came out back in the '70s. ---
**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/83 "2003-05-24T05:27:29Z")
Muppet Treasure Island, anyone? C’mon! Some seriously funny scenes in that. And tons o’ pirates too. I for one really hope this new Pirates movie is good. I’m a big fan of the screenwriters’ [website](http://wordplayer.com/columns/welcome.html) and have been looking forward to seeing if their enthusiasm translated well this time around. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/84 "2003-05-24T15:36:18Z")
**Gaspode** –are you talking about the Tiki Room at DL or WDW? Because last year when we visited WDW, the Tiki Room was there with a new show called “Under New Management” starring Zazu from The Lion King and Iago from Aladdin,as well as all of the original tikiroom birds. > [@](#): > > DisneyWorld (FL) does not have the jilted bride ‘plot’. Well no. But the bride IS there…complete with creepy bright red glowing beating heart going thathumpthathumpthathump.:shivers: > [@](#): > > Bruckheimer producing… Not a good sign –since when? Bruckheimer is a more than competant producer.I think that will be the saving grace of this film…well…that and some witty dialogue. From the trailer we saw preceding _Bruce Almighty_– > [@](#): > > You like PAIN? Try wearing a corset. . I think that this movie should be given a chance to not suck before everybody stomps on it with their big black combat boots. Give it a chance, go see it and then report back as to whether or not it sucks. It may have sucky moments…most movies do. But then again…with good dialogue, a sembleance of a decent plot, some agreeably good actors and great producer, it may turn ot to be a smash hit. One never knows. But for pirates everywhre…give it a chance.😉 IDBB (secretly wishing to be a pir-ette…yaaargh!) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/85 "2003-05-24T16:27:08Z")
From [this](http://www.faqs.org/faqs/disney-faq/haunted-mansion/) cool little site… re: the whole bride thing on the haunted mansion. > [@](#): > > 1. Why is there a bride in the attic? > > The bride was a character from one of the earliest treatments for the > mansion who “made the cut.” At one point, the whole ride was going to > revolve around the bride’s story. This idea was revamped for EDL’s > Phantom Manor. > > Regan B. Pederson ([xzfr@xmission.com](mailto:xzfr@xmission.com)) posted about the Phantom Manor: > > The Groom (I’ll call them the Groom, the Bride and the Phantom because I > don’t know what their real names are supposed to be) owns most of > Frontierland. He falls in love with the Bride, and they are engaged. > Before they are married, though, she wants to return back east to visit > with her family. While she is gone the Groom has a lavish, extravagant, > beautiful house built on a hill at the edge of the Rivers of the Far > West. The site overlooked Frontierland and could be seen from all > around. > > The house is no sooner built than it is haunted - by the Phantom. > Unfortunately for the Groom, the Phantom has fallen in love with the > Bride as well. The Groom plans a magnificent wedding party for the night > the bride would return. She promised him she would arrive in her wedding > gown, ready to go. The magical night arrives. The Groom dresses up, the > guests arrive, the cake is made, and the Phantom was there. Just before > the Bride arrived the Phantom hung the groom from the tower of the house. > > The Bride arrived at the house and couldn’t find her fiancee. After > searching the entire place (but never looking up) she sits at the edge of > the ballroom and cries as she watches what should have been her wedding > party go on. Then, she looks behind her, and outside the Phantom is > there laughing. She realizes what he has done but there is nothing she > can do about it, and the Phantom condemns the Bride to live with him for > the rest of their eternal lives in the house. > > Okay, well, that’s pretty much the story as I know it. > > One of the disadvantages of Phantom Manor is that due to budget > constraints the Imagineers had to work the story into scenes that have > existed at the storyless Haunted Mansion for years. Everything has been > updated and improved and worked into the story as much as possible, but > it’s obvious that the Imagineers struggled here. Another problem is that > the story had to be made visually apparent so that you could understand > it no matter which language you speak. There is no narration in the > “doom buggies”, the Phantom only speaks to you in the foyer and stretch > room. It’s in French anyway, so if you don’t understand it you’re out of > luck. Incidentally, Vincent Price did the original Phantom narration. > > THe floor plan of Phantom Manor is almost identical to the Haunted > Mansion. The intercoms, emergency exits, break area, etc… The vehicles > were modified so that there instead of the front of the “clamshell” > lowering down, there is just a bar. There must be some minor > modifications, though; because there are only 130 vehicles in Phantom > Manor. It’s been a long long time since I’ve been to Disneyland, I don’t even really remember a bride; nor a plot really. But thought I’d throw some fuel on the fire. On a side note… A\> I don’t see why making a movie out of a ride is any big deal. Or at least any bigger of a deal than making a movie out of anything else. B\> I think Disney is trying to create more publicity for the rides they already have. So they don’t have to spend as much money updating them. C\> I think the POTC movie looks like it could be very cool. Johnny Depp rarely lets me down, and Verbinski can direct a good flick. So its got good stuff going for it. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/86 "2003-05-24T20:12:13Z")
The movie looks like it could be cool. But it has Bruckheimer…he sucks. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/87 "2003-05-24T20:46:54Z")
Jerry Bruckheimer’s films are like Chinese food, see. You like them well enough when you’re watching them, but later you feel all empty inside and unsatisfied. But then later still, you crave more… ---
**Author:** ![FallenAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@FallenAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FallenAngel)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/88 "2003-05-24T20:54:06Z")
Since I really hate Disney in most of its myriad incarnations, I’m looking forward to the Bruckheimer-ization. It may well not suck. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/89 "2003-05-25T17:32:43Z")
ROTFLMAO Nice analogy, **dan**. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/90 "2003-05-25T22:27:08Z")
Hey, it’s an odd craving. I watch his movies, and I’m like, “Oooooooooh… guns! Explosions! W00t!” and then later I’m all “Ugh… I can’t believe I watched it…” and then still later I’m more like “More… must see more…” ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/91 "2003-05-28T04:59:30Z")
That must be why I own the Criterion Collection version of “Armageddon”, **dan**. And why I spent SIX HOURS watching all the special features as well as the movie like 3 times, twice without vocal commentary, once with.😃 IDBB ---
**Author:** ![DaveX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/96bed5/32.png) [@DaveX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/92 "2003-05-28T06:02:39Z")
I had some hopes for this film before I saw the preview for it (at X2 the other night, which I loved, by the way). I usually like Johnny Depp, and Orlando is Legolas, for christ sakes… and Geoffrey Rush has been quite excellent in my opinion (his turn as de Sade in “Quills” was highly entertaining). All that said, the preview was atrocious. But I’ll still be obligated to see it because of my partners avowed worship of all things Depp… ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/93 "2003-05-28T09:39:17Z")
Maybe we could change this thread into The Straight Depp Club… ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/94 "2003-05-28T16:19:22Z")
The first trailer I saw for PotC took the film a little too seriously and I had no interest in seeing the movie. At the showing of _Bruce Almighty_ this weekend, they showed a different trailer for PotC. This one was campy and fun and made me want to see the film. Johnny Depp looked like he was having a good time and Orlando Bloom is just…_dreamy sigh_ Oh yes. I will see this movie. I will. ---
**Author:** ![TeaRoses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@TeaRoses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaRoses)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/95 "2003-07-02T05:36:02Z")
My husband is really looking forward to this movie. But we virtually never see movies (we did see Finding Nemo, but before that it was Cowboy Bebop and before that I don’t even remember). So I’m not sure I want to spend one of my movie chances on Pirates, especially if there is a danger I might drool over beautiful shirtless men where my husband will catch me. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144/96 "2003-07-02T07:13:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zebra \* > \*\*I think ‘Disney’ wants all the attractions in the park to have a film tie-in. So at some time in the future you will see “It’s a Small World–The Movie!”. \*\* I’d see that on the following conditions. A.) Assualt rifles are issued at the door. B.) People can bring their own just for this movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-movie/176144.md?page=4)