# Pissing on a wall is not child molestation you officious fucks! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196 "2004-11-17T04:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/21 "2004-11-17T18:36:20Z")
> [@Anonymous Coward](#): > > A few years ago I went to a football game, and during halftime there was the typical rush to the toilets. Except in this case half the mens bathrooms were closed for repair, and the other half had huuuuge queues. > > You’ve never seen such a display of public pissing. It seemed like every dark corner had a man taking a leak, and the cops and rent-a-cops didn’t care one bit. Sounds like Mardi Gras in New Orleans. I’ve seen as many as 30 men pissing through the fence on the back lawn of St. Louis’s Cathedral due to the lack of public restrooms while cops ride by on horseback. (I swear that if you rented a shop in the Quarter, filled it with nothing but bathrooms that you charge the public $1 per person to use and are only open during Mardi Gras, you would make enough money to pay for the rent the rest of the year.) ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/22 "2004-11-18T04:34:14Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > I hate how a lot of men think they can just whip their dicks out anywhere and piss where ever happens to be convenient. Fuck them. They need some handcuffs slapped on them. Being registered as a sex offender is over the top, but they need to be taught a lesson. Outside? At night? With no one around? Meh. I don’t see why it matters. ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/23 "2004-11-18T11:23:04Z")
Just chiming in to say that I agree wholeheartedly with the OP. I’ve pissed outside _thousands_ of times, with no malice toward wayward women or stray rugrats. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/24 "2004-11-18T12:17:52Z")
So, er, are you still oddly proud of being Southern? ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/25 "2004-11-18T12:33:12Z")
Talking to me? I read that thread, smart guy. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/26 "2004-11-18T14:35:30Z")
I’m still wondering if its illegal for a child to do so. ---
**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/27 "2004-11-18T16:52:09Z")
**Samprio and Jaade** are both mistaken. If you actually read OCGA 42-1-12, you will see that registration is not required for ANY sexual offens, just offenses that involve minors. So pissing on the wall wouldn’t be a registration offense, unless he intentionally did it in fromt of a minor, and even then I think it would be questionable. ``` Besides giving specific acts, the code section sums it up nicely: 42-1-12 (a)(4)(A)(vii): Any conviction resulting from an underlying sexual offense against a victim who is a monor. 42-1-12 (a)(4)(B)(xi): Any conduct, which, by its cery nature, is a sexual offense against a minor. That portion of the code section was enacted to prevent defendants from getting out of having to register by pleading to a lesser offense. For example, the crime of "Child Molestation" is, by definition, a sexual crime against a child. An essential element of the crime is that the victim has to be under 16. Sexual battery, however, is an unwanted touching of the intimate body parts of another. No age limit. Sometimes, the State will plead a CM case down to a sexual battery, but if the victim is under 16, the person still has to register. Also, you don't have to be sentenced to prison to have to register. 42-1-12 (a)(1)(A) specifically says that you have to register if you are "sentenced to probatoi without any sentence of incarceration in the state prison system". The statute was amended in 2001 to include defendants who enter pelas under the First Offender Act- they were previously excluded from having to register, but now they are required to. So, the short version of this is that your friend should not have to register. ``` ---
**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/28 "2004-11-18T16:57:16Z")
Forgot to add that the registration statue also includes “sexually violent” offenses, and I still don’t think that peeing on a wall would count. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/29 "2004-11-18T18:34:22Z")
“College Children???” 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/30 "2004-11-18T19:08:18Z")
> [@katie1341](#): > > Forgot to add that the registration statue also includes “sexually violent” offenses, and I still don’t think that peeing on a wall would count. Wouldn’t that depend on, say, volume and force? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/31 "2004-11-19T00:22:44Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > So, er, are you still oddly proud of being Southern? Actually, since you mention it, when I was growing up (Weokahatchee, AL- population 15 at its zenith in the 1920s and population today 1) most of my relatives (who lived in the old tin-roofed dogtrot homeplace on our farm) didn’t have indoor plumbing (by choice, no less- “You just shouldn’t do such as that in the same house where ya cook”), so it was nothing for me to see my 70-something through 90-something aunts spread their legs (their skirts still down to their ankles [except for Aunt Lucy who was barking mad and something of an exhibitionist] and let fly when they had to pee (though they were all ladylike enough to go into the woods when they had to do anything more substantive. My mother (the former lady wrestler) was actually considered spoiled and coddled because she INSISTED on running water as a condition of moving into the area. (She and my father built a 3 BR [eventually 5- like Tara, Topsy and cancer it just sorta grew] brick house that would pass unnoticed in any middle class suburban neighborhood but was referred to locally as “the perfessir’s mansion up there on the hill”; my father used toilets mostly but never did cotton to bathing more than once a week.) And then there were the two dozen dogs we had at any given time as well as the ghost of the slave-rapist and the Indian mound and the dead-cat-Nativity-set… all in all, what seemed a boring upbringing at the time doesn’t always seem so mundane in retrospect. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/32 "2004-11-19T07:15:51Z")
There is a ‘no tolerance’ to petty crimes nowadays, partly to prevent more Columbines, partly in response to the success ‘Broken Glass’ program in New York. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/33 "2004-11-19T08:06:20Z")
> [@capacitor](#): > > There is a ‘no tolerance’ to petty crimes nowadays, partly to prevent more Columbines, partly in response to the success ‘Broken Glass’ program in New York. Help me out with this one. By prosecuting someone for possession of a penis, and discharge of urine in a quasi-public setting, we’re dealing with sociopathic behavior and assembly of IEDs in what way? :dubious: This is the whole problem with ‘zero tolerance.’ It’s akin to zero common sense. He isn’t some ‘serial pisser’ filling public mailboxes, ice machines, and ATMs with recycled beer. He’s just a student at a party who did as generations before him have done. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/34 "2004-11-19T09:06:39Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > _snip_…and the dead-cat-Nativity-set… Okay, this one you’re going to have to explain… ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/35 "2004-11-19T17:07:50Z")
> [@Marlitharn](#): > > Okay, this one you’re going to have to explain… [Christmas memories.](http://www.worldwiderant.com/archives/001929.html) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/36 "2004-11-19T17:21:54Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > _Quoting his entire post, but especially:_ And then there were the two dozen dogs we had at any given time as well as the ghost of the slave-rapist and the Indian mound and the dead-cat-Nativity-set… all in all, what seemed a boring upbringing at the time doesn’t always seem so mundane in retrospect. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, as to the question before you, “Did William Faulkner write fiction or was he a true and accurate documentarian of the American South of the 20th Century,” I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/37 "2004-11-19T19:30:05Z")
The officer and prosecutor should be shot by a firing squad. - No joke. If you want to make a point of underage drinking, give him an underage drunkiness ticket. Since when is a much needed urine release considered “lewd”? He went to an area where there was no one around. These fuckers can choke on it as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/38 "2004-11-19T19:33:54Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > The officer and prosecutor should be shot by a firing squad. - No joke. > > If you want to make a point of underage drinking, give him an underage drunkiness ticket. Since when is a much needed urine release considered “lewd”? He went to an area where there was no one around. These fuckers can choke on it as far as I’m concerned. ``` Why can't I ever have anyone like you on my jury panels?... ``` ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196/39 "2004-11-19T20:18:21Z")
> [@katie1341](#): > > Why can’t I ever have anyone like you on my jury panels?.. Forgive me, I don’t know what you mean. If you’re implying that I’m some kind of asshat, then… You should know that I’m really not a violent person in real life. The comments about the choking, and the firing squad, were just examples of my extreme hatred for people like the officer and the prosecutor. I really don’t wish them to die, but I wouldn’t really be sad if, well, they died. Going after a man for taking a piss in an deliberate area where he was unlikely to been seen, and then charge him with an offense that has nothing to do with the claims of… > [@](#): > > We have to send a message to college children that alcohol is no laughing matter and we are not going to play. …when the real crime here is underage drinking, not public indecency. It’s just so hypocritical that it pisses me off. That’s all. Is that what you meant? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pissing-on-a-wall-is-not-child-molestation-you-officious-fucks/275196.md?page=1)