# Pit -100 for Hank Williams, Jr.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512 "2011-10-04T02:35:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/21 "2011-10-04T03:55:12Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> He was emphatic that he was supporting Cain “right now.” He said it twice. It’s not like he’s actually going to vote for the ni.

I don’t even know where you are going here. I was simply pointing out that Diosabellissima’s claim/edit indicated that she thinks Hank dislikes Obama is because he is not WHITE. While at the same time he said TWICE that he likes Cain and his ideas most of all of the canidates.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/22 "2011-10-04T03:58:47Z")

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I saw the clip, and he didn’t seem to insinuate which was which. Maybe Obama was Netanyahu.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/23 "2011-10-04T04:01:51Z")

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I’m not really sure what the hell Hank Williams was trying to say. Clearly it was Uncomplimentary, and it mentioned Hitler.

Usually when a left leaning celebrity insults a conservative politician, it’s reasonably coherent. George Clooney, or Dreyfus, or whoever they’ll put together a tangible sentence that we can sink are teeth into and get angry about.

I have to imagine that half the anger has to be confusion over what the hell dude was trying to say.

As a conservative, I’d like to apologize. I wish we could have presented a more coherent celebrity.

Without really understanding what it was that he said or meant, I will nonetheless sincerely and completely concede that it was offensive and out of line. I support the righteous anger of all liberals, and whatever consequences you wish to send upon the man.

He’s yours. Send him to Gitmo.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/24 "2011-10-04T04:03:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I saw the clip, and he didn’t seem to insinuate which was which. Maybe Obama was Netanyahu.

But why was he playing golf with Hitler?

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/25 "2011-10-04T04:03:13Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> More kneejerk nonsense. His comment was a ham-handed attempt to say that the two parties were enemies and shouldn’t get together to make nice (which in itself is dumb, I’d say), but he was not trying to say that either party was represented by either party he mentioned. He was just trying to say they were enemies. There is no reasoning, no matter how tortured that I’ve heard where anyone thinks Obama is Hitler-like.

Damn right, he clearly compared Obama to Netanyahu. Not to Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/26 "2011-10-04T04:08:10Z")

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If I was a rich celebrity I would never ever say one word about politics and risk alienating any of the fans that were keeping me in cocaine, supermodels and Lamborghinis.

Any celebrity that gets political deserves to lose everything.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/27 "2011-10-04T04:13:59Z")

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Wait, you got the money, the drugs, and the nookie. So, then you buy a car. Why would you ever want to go anywhere?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/28 "2011-10-04T04:15:35Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I think it funny that you felt the need to respond to my comment twice. Neither attempt convincing. As I said, **Argent Towers** nailed it.

First post was a direct response. Second was the one with evidence.

And I never expected to convince you anyway.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/29 "2011-10-04T05:25:21Z")

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I think it was a fairly stupid and hard to understand analogy, but I don’t think he should have been killed in Iraq for it.

Wishing people who make stupid and hard to understand analogies should be killed is like wishing Abraham Lincoln should have had a cat.

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/30 "2011-10-04T05:36:43Z")

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[For all of those people who are saying Williams wasn’t comparing Obama to Hitler:](http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1370743&srvc=business&position=4)

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> Anchor Gretchen Carlson later said to him, “You used the name of one of the most hated people in all of the world to describe, I think, the president.” Williams replied, “Well, that is true. But I’m telling you like it is.”

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/31 "2011-10-04T06:03:47Z")

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Wow, this puts Hank Williams in a whole new light in my mind.

I’m shocked he knew who Netayahu was.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/32 "2011-10-04T06:05:44Z")

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Hell, everybody knows about Nathan Yahoo, who founded that web thingy.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/33 "2011-10-04T06:37:31Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> There is no reasoning, no matter how tortured that I’ve heard where anyone thinks Obama is Hitler-like.

> [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](#):
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> [For all of those people who are saying Williams wasn’t comparing Obama to Hitler:](http://bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1370743&srvc=business&position=4)

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> Anchor Gretchen Carlson later said to him, “You used the name of one of the most hated people in all of the world to describe, I think, the president.” Williams replied, “Well, that is true. But I’m telling you like it is.”

What was that again, **magellan01**?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/34 "2011-10-04T07:00:57Z")

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Gee, I dunno. Netanyahu has certainly got a lot of detractors, but I don’t think I would call him “one of the most hated people in all of the world”.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/35 "2011-10-04T07:14:09Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> There is no reasoning, no matter how tortured that I’ve heard where anyone thinks Obama is Hitler-like.

[Ann Coulter](http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831) (“Obama’s Dimestore ‘Mein Kampf’”)  
[Tom Sullivan/Fox News Radio](http://mediamatters.org/research/200802130016) (secondary source)  
[A whole shitload of others](http://mediamatters.org/research/200810310017?f=s_search) (same secondary source as above)

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/36 "2011-10-04T07:55:48Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> [Ann Coulter](http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25831) (“Obama’s Dimestore ‘Mein Kampf’”)  
> [Tom Sullivan/Fox News Radio](http://mediamatters.org/research/200802130016) (secondary source)  
> [A whole shitload of others](http://mediamatters.org/research/200810310017?f=s_search) (same secondary source as above)

Pointing at Glenn Beck seems like hunting a baited field, but for the sake of completeness, let’s not forget [Lewis Black’s fabulous Nazi Tourette’s rant](http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-12-2010/back-in-black---glenn-beck-s-nazi-tourette-s).

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/37 "2011-10-04T08:04:58Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> What was that again, **magellan01**?

Were you pointing to this paragraph in your cite?

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> Williams released a statement through his publicist, saying: “Some of us have strong opinions and are often misunderstood. My analogy was extreme — but it was to make a point. I was simply trying to explain how stupid it seemed to me — how ludicrous that pairing was. They’re polar opposites and it made no sense. They don’t see eye-to-eye and never will. I have always respected the office of the president.”

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/38 "2011-10-04T08:16:21Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Were you pointing to this paragraph in your cite?

That’s called backtracking.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/39 "2011-10-04T10:31:02Z")

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I’m just gonna step in here and say that Hank3 is, in no way, talking to his dad and hasn’t for years.

He’s also got some new albums out.  
[http://rayvanhornjr.blogspot.com/2011/09/album-review-hank-iiis-attention.html](http://rayvanhornjr.blogspot.com/2011/09/album-review-hank-iiis-attention.html)  
I recommend Ghost to a Ghost.

> **[Hank III - Ghost to a Ghost -](https://music.mxdwn.com/2011/09/07/reviews/hank-williams-iii-ghost-to-a-ghost/)**
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> From One Ghost to Another When we last left Hank Williams III in 2010, he delved into some of the darkest content of his career on Rebel Within. Probably not coincidentally, it was his final album done with the label Curb Records that he publicly and...

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/40 "2011-10-04T10:38:45Z")

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Regardless of what he said, my sincerest wish is that the long national nightmare of him singing the MNF theme is finally over; it would be the icing on the Andy-Rooney-finally-leaving cake.

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