# Pit -100 for Hank Williams, Jr.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512 "2011-10-04T02:35:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/101 "2011-10-04T18:46:14Z")

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Jesus **magellan01**.

Even the hosts of Fox & Friends clearly knew that the guy was an embarrassment, and was babbling incoherent thoughts trying to link Obama to Hitler.

Congratulations. You are dumber and more partisan than Fox & Friends.  
An incredible achievement.  
Take a bow.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/102 "2011-10-04T19:13:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Jesus **magellan01**.
> 
> Even the hosts of Fox & Friends clearly knew that the guy was an embarrassment, and was babbling incoherent thoughts trying to link Obama to Hitler.
> 
> Congratulations. You are dumber and more partisan than Fox & Friends.  
> An incredible achievement.  
> Take a bow.

Because his anti-Muslim rants hadnt already convinced you of this?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/103 "2011-10-04T19:16:21Z")

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\*\*Magellan01 \*\*as helped me see the light.

I had always been embarrassed by my bretheren on the left going on about about, “George Bush is worse that Hitler!”

Now I feel much better knowing that they were merely speaking of oratorical skills.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/104 "2011-10-04T19:27:16Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> \*\*Magellan01 \*\*as helped me see the light.
> 
> I had always been embarrassed by my bretheren on the left going on about about, “George Bush is worse that Hitler!”
> 
> Now I feel much better knowing that they were merely speaking of oratorical skills.

So, you don’t understand that the reference can refer to different aspects of the man after all.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/105 "2011-10-04T19:30:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Jesus **magellan01**.
> 
> Even the hosts of Fox & Friends clearly knew that the guy was an embarrassment, and was babbling incoherent thoughts trying to link Obama to Hitler.
> 
> Congratulations. You are dumber and more partisan than Fox & Friends.  
> An incredible achievement.  
> Take a bow.

What did I get wrong exactly?:  
[QUOTE=magellan01]  
His comment was a ham-handed attempt to say that the two parties were enemies and shouldn’t get together to make nice (which in itself is dumb, I’d say), but he was not trying to say that either party was represented by either party he mentioned. He was just trying to say they were enemies.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/106 "2011-10-04T19:34:15Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Because his anti-Muslim rants hadnt already convinced you of this?

I’m not anti-Muslim, just pro-civilizized people. 😉 I will admit to being strongly anti-murderous barbarians, as the extremists are.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/107 "2011-10-04T19:35:15Z")

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I’m not gonna be able to sleep until I figure out if Obama is Hitler or Obama is a Stooge. And WHICH stooge? Or is Hitler the Stooge? He does look a little like Moe.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/108 "2011-10-04T19:38:26Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, you don’t understand that the reference can refer to different aspects of the man after all.

Oh I understand.

When a Liberal uses a Hitler comparison, it’s about hating Jews; when a Conservative uses a Hitler comparison it’s about oratory.

You don’t need to flog it any further, you’ve convinced me, mein fuhrer (and by that, I mean you have beautiful speaking voice, of course).

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Macleod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Charlie\_Macleod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Macleod)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/109 "2011-10-04T19:49:52Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Why couldn’t this piece of pig excrement have gone off to Iraq and gotten his ass shot off?
> 
> [http://gawker.com/5846280/hank-williams-jr-astutely-compares-obama-to-hitler](http://gawker.com/5846280/hank-williams-jr-astutely-compares-obama-to-hitler)
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> This is the same type of person that will yell, “Support our President, right or wrong” when his guy is sitting in the Oval Office on his lazy ass trashing the country. Such a patriotic American young Hank is. I wonder if there is some inbreeding involved?
> 
> At least ESPN had enough decency to remove his stupid holler from the Monday Night Football lead-in.

“My country, right or wrong” …(“my mother, drunk or sober”). Charlie MacLeod

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/110 "2011-10-04T19:55:02Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I’m not gonna be able to sleep until I figure out if Obama is Hitler or Obama is a Stooge. And WHICH stooge? Or is Hitler the Stooge? He does look a little like Moe.

That’s a bit inflammatory, don’t you think? I’ve heard Moe was a really nice guy in real life.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/111 "2011-10-04T19:58:08Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> That’s a bit inflammatory, don’t you think? I’ve heard Moe was a really nice guy in real life.

There was that time he ordered a pogrom against the Jews, then systemically directed the killing of 5 millions of them (and some gays and other undesirables).

No, wait. I’m thinking of Hitler again.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/112 "2011-10-04T19:59:07Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Oh I understand.
> 
> When a Liberal uses a Hitler comparison, it’s about hating Jews; when a Conservative uses a Hitler comparison it’s about oratory.
> 
> You don’t need to flog it any further, you’ve convinced me, mein fuhrer (and by that, I mean you have beautiful speaking voice, of course).

Wow. I knew you were strongly partisan, but I never took you for a dolt. Consider that bit of ignorance fought.

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/113 "2011-10-04T20:03:13Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> It’s not a nuance. It’s the whole fucking concept. And high school drop out or not, I’m of the understanding that Mr. Williams can speak the English language. It’s not his fault that liberals only heard “Obama…Hitler…” and ignored the words in between or somehow decided to ignore what they learned in third grade

Wait…Hank was speaking English there??:dubious:

Some of the words sounded kind of familiar, but the coherence was lacking.

> [@](#):
>
> _What on earth are you talking about… and in what language are you saying it?_\*

- Charles Emerson Winchester III

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/114 "2011-10-04T20:07:39Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Oh I understand.
> 
> When a Liberal uses a Hitler comparison, it’s about hating Jews; when a Conservative uses a Hitler comparison it’s about oratory.
> 
> You don’t need to flog it any further, you’ve convinced me, mein fuhrer (and by that, I mean you have beautiful speaking voice, of course).

Why don’t you answer the question I posed in the ETA here:

> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> I read it. He did, indeed, use Hitler’s name to describe Obama. What did he describe? How Obama gets along with Boehner. I don’t know why this is so hard. But anyway, this isn’t so much about Williams’s idiocy as it is about **Trepa** ’s.
> 
> ETA: What, exactly, is meant by [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12472141&postcount=8)? Is Toomey like Hitler, or does the poster have another point?

Does **Zeriel** think that Toomey would order the systematic killing of 6 million people or is it oratory?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/115 "2011-10-04T20:11:51Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> But why was he playing golf with Hitler?

I 'unno… networking?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/116 "2011-10-04T20:15:03Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> There was that time he ordered a pogrom against the Jews, then systemically directed the killing of 5 millions of them (and some gays and other undesirables).
> 
> No, wait. I’m thinking of Hitler again.

As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Stooges or Moe approaches one.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/117 "2011-10-04T20:24:59Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Why don’t you answer the question I posed in the ETA here:
> 
> Does **Zeriel** think that Toomey would order the systematic killing of 6 million people or is it oratory?

He was using ‘Hitler’ as a place holder for ‘really bad person’ just as Hank “Thank God My Dad Was Famous” Williams Jr did in his idiotic ‘analogy’ comparing Boehner and Obama with Netanyahu and Hitler.

Or are you claiming that \*\*Zeriel \*\*meant that Toomey is just a really terrific public speaker?

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**Author:** ![Mom-of-Andrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8c91f0/32.png) [@Mom-of-Andrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mom-of-Andrew)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/118 "2011-10-04T21:13:39Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I think it was a fairly stupid and hard to understand analogy, but I don’t think he should have been killed in Iraq for it.
> 
> Wishing people who make stupid and hard to understand analogies should be killed is like wishing Abraham Lincoln should have had a cat.

I see what you did there

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/119 "2011-10-04T21:21:15Z")

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[from CNN:](http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/showbiz/williams-football/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

“I have always been very passionate about politics and sports and this time it got the best or worst of me,” the country singer said in a statement.

“The thought of the leaders of both parties jukin’ [sic] and high fiven’ [sic] on a golf course, while so many families are struggling to get by, simply made me boil over and make a dumb statement, and I am very sorry if it offended anyone. I would like to thank all my supporters. This was not written by some publicist,” Williams wrote.  
Decent apology, in my opinion. (Also, please note admission of poor judgment, **Chessic Sense** )

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/120 "2011-10-04T21:32:08Z")

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> [@Troppus](#):
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> “The thought of the leaders of both parties jukin’ [sic] and high fiven’ [sic] on a golf course, while so many families are struggling to get by, simply made me boil over and make a dumb statement, and I am very sorry if it offended anyone. I would like to thank all my supporters. This was not written by some publicist,” Williams wrote.

Damn I dont remember Hank Williams harping about any of Boehner’s previous and numerous golf binges.

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