# Pit -100 for Hank Williams, Jr. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512 "2011-10-04T02:35:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/141 "2011-10-05T04:56:12Z")
But they have the right mental attitude. And many of them, including mine, have slaves to do the heavy lifting. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/142 "2011-10-05T12:05:58Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’m not sure what you think this proves. My contention all along was that Williams was ham-handedly trying to make the point that Obama and Boehner are enemies. You still didn’t grasp, or maybe even get down to, the part where he called the President and Vice-President \*the \*enemy. Silly little Foxtard. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/143 "2011-10-05T12:33:38Z")
(one burning issue this thread has resolved: who would be Aston Kutscher to Dio’s Charley Sheen) ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/144 "2011-10-05T13:19:31Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > He was using ‘Hitler’ as a place holder for ‘really bad person’ just as Hank “Thank God My Dad Was Famous” Williams Jr did in his idiotic ‘analogy’ comparing Boehner and Obama with Netanyahu and Hitler. > > Or are you claiming that \*\*Zeriel \*\*meant that Toomey is just a really terrific public speaker? No, that’s not what **Zeriel** is doing. **Zeriel** is using Hitler as a place holder for “someone whom Democrats would never, ever vote for or want to see in office,” just like Toomey. The point is not that Toomey is a really bad person, which is why it shouldn’t be seen as offensive. But let’s assume you’re right and that Toomey really was compared to the evil of Hitler. Does **Zeriel** deserve a Pit thread like Hank or not? If not, why not? What’s the difference? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You still didn’t grasp, or maybe even get down to, the part where he called the President and Vice-President \*the \*enemy. > > Silly little Foxtard. Wait, wait, wait. _That’s_ what you’re upset about? That little, insignificant comment by a political opponent is what gets your goat? Your guy being called “the enemy”? HAHAHAHHA! I mean, I always knew the majority of liberals were pussies, but I didn’t think it was _that_ easy to make some of them cry! That’s, like, the mildest of insults one could possibly come up with to call someone from the opposite side of the political spectrum, and you’re flipping out about it. I laugh at your pain. I’m pretty sure **magellan** saw that line, just like I did, but he probably didn’t realize that you had such a glass jaw for political jabs. I guess we gave you too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/145 "2011-10-05T13:28:46Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Wait, wait, wait. _That’s_ what you’re upset about? That little, insignificant comment by a political opponent is what gets your goat? Your guy being called “the enemy”? > > HAHAHAHHA! I mean, I always knew the majority of liberals were pussies, but I didn’t think it was _that_ easy to make some of them cry! That’s, like, the mildest of insults one could possibly come up with to call someone from the opposite side of the political spectrum, and you’re flipping out about it. I laugh at your pain. > > I’m pretty sure **magellan** saw that line, just like I did, but he probably didn’t realize that you had such a glass jaw for political jabs. I guess we gave you too much credit. Perhaps you should try reading\* the quote of **magellan** ’s that **Elvis** was _directly responding_ to. You know, the one where he insinuates that Williams’ use of the word “enemy” referred to Obama and Boehner? \*judging by your posts in this thread, you may wish to have someone help you with it. Don’t feel bad. English is hard. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/146 "2011-10-05T13:36:29Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > [from CNN:](http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/showbiz/williams-football/index.html?hpt=hp_t2) > > “I have always been very passionate about politics and sports and this time it got the best or worst of me,” the country singer said in a statement. > > “The thought of the leaders of both parties jukin’ [sic] and high fiven’ [sic] on a golf course, while so many families are struggling to get by, simply made me boil over and make a dumb statement, and I am very sorry if it offended anyone. I would like to thank all my supporters. This was not written by some publicist,” Williams wrote. > Decent apology, in my opinion. (Also, please note admission of poor judgment, **Chessic Sense** ) That’s a classical non-apology apology, IMHO. The “if” in the phrase “I’m very sorry if it offended anyone” makes it weaselly - he knows it was offensive, because he meant it to be offensive. Replacing the “if” with the word “that” would make it worlds better, and a real apology. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/147 "2011-10-05T13:50:04Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > No, that’s not what **Zeriel** is doing. **Zeriel** is using Hitler as a place holder for “someone whom Democrats would never, ever vote for or want to see in office,” just like Toomey. The point is not that Toomey is a really bad person, which is why it shouldn’t be seen as offensive. > > But let’s assume you’re right and that Toomey really was compared to the evil of Hitler. Does **Zeriel** deserve a Pit thread like Hank or not? If not, why not? What’s the difference? Dude, if you want to pit **Zerial** , fire it up. I didn’t read that whole thread, I merely clicked your little link so you wouldn’t hang yourself in your closet if I didn’t answer your question. I don’t even know who this Toomey guy is in the first place. That shit is neither here nor there. This thread is about Hank Williams Jr, saying that Obama playing golf with Boehner is like Hitler playing golf with Netanyahu. I don’t know on which planet you have to live to see that as nothing more than – oh he was just comparing opposites – but let me know what the bars are like there, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/148 "2011-10-05T14:30:24Z")
Jeez, I’m beginning to wish he’d just used “Tom and Jerry” or “The Coyote and the Roadrunner”. Probably more in his intellectual wheelhouse, anyway. Three pages of this? How many pages did the 'lipstick/pig" get, and did all of you swap sides of the argument on that one? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/149 "2011-10-05T15:01:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You still didn’t grasp, or maybe even get down to, the part where he called the President and Vice-President \*the \*enemy. Yet, I commented on it. Amazing, that. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Silly little Foxtard. I’m wholly unsurprised that this is what passes for clever in the world between your ears. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/150 "2011-10-05T15:02:45Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Wait, wait, wait. _That’s_ what you’re upset about? That little, insignificant comment by a political opponent is what gets your goat? Your guy being called “the enemy”? The President is _your_ President too. :rolleyes: What are they telling you on Fox these days? Not the same as what they kept telling you when the last guy was in, right? Or are you too equating “Democrat” with “enemy”? GawDAMMM, boy. Try accepting a little adult responsibility. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/151 "2011-10-05T15:04:11Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Yet, I commented on it. Amazing, that. No, you commented on what you \*wish \*Williams had said instead. Still having a difficult relationship with reality as ever, I see. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/152 "2011-10-05T15:13:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The President is _your_ President too. :rolleyes: And I’m sure a search will reveal your coming to the defense of GWB when he was attacked on these boards, right? Yeah, right.:rolleyes: > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > What are they telling you on Fox these days? Not the same as what they kept telling you when the last guy was in, right? Or are you too equating “Democrat” with “enemy”? Damn, you’re a dum-dum. He’s making the point that THAT was what Williams was saying. The same point I made that somehow escaped your Obama-colored glasses. No one is saying they agree with that sentiment, nor the sentiment that Obama and Boehner _shouldn’t_ meet and talk. The non-stupid understand this. Of course, you’ll have to take our word for it. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/153 "2011-10-05T15:15:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, you commented on what you \*wish \*Williams had said instead. > > Still having a difficult relationship with reality as ever, I see. Oh, really? Hmmm. Well then perhaps you’d be good enough to point to the specific error(s) I’ve made. Unless,of course, you’re full of shit and talking out of your ass…as usual. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/154 "2011-10-05T15:24:51Z")
Already bolded for you in the transcript you still haven’t read. :rolleyes: Here, I’ll even help: Williams did not, as you somehow have told yourself, call Obama and Boehner enemies. He called Obama and \*Biden \*"\*the \*enemy". Now digest that for a bit before you embarrass yourself even further (if that’s possible). Silly little Foxtard. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/155 "2011-10-05T15:27:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Already bolded for you in the transcript you still haven’t read. :rolleyes: > > Here, I’ll even help: Williams did not, as you somehow have told yourself, call Obama and Boehner enemies. He called Obama and \*Biden \*“\*the \*enemy”. > > Now digest that for a bit before you embarrass yourself even further (if that’s possible). > > Silly little Foxtard. Already read and responded to. So, you got nuthin. I can’t tell you how shocked I am. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/156 "2011-10-05T15:31:12Z")
Make sure to include one :rolleyes: in each post. You guys have slipped a little. No warning issued. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/157 "2011-10-05T15:38:32Z")
> [@An\_Arky](#): > > Regardless of what he said, my sincerest wish is that the long national nightmare of him singing the MNF theme is finally over; it would be the icing on the Andy-Rooney-finally-leaving cake. Andy Rooney is leaving Monday Night Football? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/158 "2011-10-05T15:44:06Z")
No, Andy is \*joining \*_MNF_ as a sideline reporter (getting closer to his roots). Hank Williams Jr. will now be doing the commentary pieces on _60 Minutes_, having successfully auditioned with his work on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/159 "2011-10-05T16:23:39Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Damn I dont remember Hank Williams harping about any of Boehner’s previous and numerous golf binges. Please, call the idiot Hank Williams **Junior!** His daddy remains one of the legends of country music; Hank Jr has always been an also-ran. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512/160 "2011-10-05T18:43:45Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Please, call the idiot Hank Williams **Junior!** His daddy remains one of the legends of country music; Hank Jr has always been an also-ran. I wont. That’ll teach him for being so retarded as to give him his own name. Seriously, why the fuck do Americans do this? And Hank Jr has apparently named his own son Hank. So, there’s a Hank the Third. Sounds like a mix between attempting to start your own dynasty and being so illiterate you cant think of any name besides yours. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-100-for-hank-williams-jr/598512.md?page=9)