# Pit Bulls (continued)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714 "2013-10-08T19:18:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![cougar58](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@cougar58](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cougar58)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/1 "2013-10-08T19:18:35Z")

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Just a follow up, to the latest DBRF fatal pit mauling in the USA, where the child was killed after being dropped off at the baby sitters house.

I jumped to the conclusion that this was the 3rd child killed by a baby sitters pit bull in less than a week (3 in 6 days).

Lute Skywatcher posted 4 comments to this effect:

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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690547&page=19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690547&page=19)  
Lute Skywatcher:  
“How do you know who owned the dog when the linked article says the owner is yet to be identified?”  
“How do you know that the identification is positive and accurate?”  
“There’s no word yet on the owner of the dog.”  
“And you know these are 100% positive & accurate identifications because…?”

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Authorities have now released the identity of the baby sitter, and confirmed it happened in her house.

We all knew the facts would later show - it was the baby sitters pit bull, they have now named the baby sitter (Mary Lane).

Here is her Facebook page:

[https://www.facebook.com/mary.lane.359/photos](https://www.facebook.com/mary.lane.359/photos)

It clearly shows her pit bull in the photos, and note that Mary Lane belongs to several Pro Pit Bull groups:

Pit Bull Parolees (TV Show)  
Pit Bull Boss (TV Show)  
Oregon Pit Bull Fan club  
as well as these Pro Pit Bull gems:  
[https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitbu...46?ref=profile](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitbu...46?ref=profile)

> **[Pitbull Lovers](https://www.facebook.com/PitbullsLovers1?ref=profile)**
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[https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blue-...27?ref=profile](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blue-...27?ref=profile)

Another Nutter who believed it was all in how you raised a pit bull, nurture not nature, ban the deed not the breed, nanny dog, all dogs bite, and 20 other sorts of pit bullshit.

Is anyone on SDMB truly surprised?

Anyone?

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/2 "2013-10-08T19:20:24Z")

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n/m don’t care.

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### Author: ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/3 "2013-10-08T19:44:07Z")

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Can we add in something about circumcision and de-clawing cats in here to get the trifecta?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/4 "2013-10-08T19:55:35Z")

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Soon, a PB defender will come by with the "No true Pitbull’ defense.😛

I mean, did it have AKC papers? Trick question! The AKC has no “Pitbull” breed registered, thus it wasn’t a pitbull! Ha! Ispo facto! Cognito Ergo Sum!

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### Author: ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/5 "2013-10-08T20:10:23Z")

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Ferrets.

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### Author: ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/6 "2013-10-08T20:23:53Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Soon, a PB defender will come by with the "No true Pitbull’ defense.😛
> 
> I mean, did it have AKC papers? Trick question! The AKC has no “Pitbull” breed registered, thus it wasn’t a pitbull! Ha! Ispo facto! Cognito Ergo Sum!

I hope it’s **Stoid**!

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### Author: ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/7 "2013-10-08T20:28:26Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Ferrets.

😛

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### Author: ![AnthonyElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@AnthonyElite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnthonyElite)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/8 "2013-10-08T20:57:38Z")

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> [@cougar58](#):
>
> Just a follow up, to the latest DBRF fatal pit mauling in the USA, where the child was killed after being dropped off at the baby sitters house.
> 
> I jumped to the conclusion that this was the 3rd child killed by a baby sitters pit bull in less than a week (3 in 6 days).
> 
> Lute Skywatcher posted 4 comments to this effect:
> 
> * * *
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690547&page=19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690547&page=19)  
> Lute Skywatcher:  
> “How do you know who owned the dog when the linked article says the owner is yet to be identified?”  
> “How do you know that the identification is positive and accurate?”  
> “There’s no word yet on the owner of the dog.”  
> “And you know these are 100% positive & accurate identifications because…?”
> 
> * * *
> 
> Authorities have now released the identity of the baby sitter, and confirmed it happened in her house.
> 
> We all knew the facts would later show - it was the baby sitters pit bull, they have now named the baby sitter (Mary Lane).
> 
> Here is her Facebook page:
> 
> [https://www.facebook.com/mary.lane.359/photos](https://www.facebook.com/mary.lane.359/photos)
> 
> It clearly shows her pit bull in the photos, and note that Mary Lane belongs to several Pro Pit Bull groups:
> 
> Pit Bull Parolees (TV Show)  
> Pit Bull Boss (TV Show)  
> Oregon Pit Bull Fan club  
> as well as these Pro Pit Bull gems:  
> [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitbu...46?ref=profile](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pitbu...46?ref=profile)
> 
> [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/PitbullsLovers1?ref=profile)
> 
> [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/VillalobosR...er?ref=profile)
> 
> [People, Please Don't Confuse Hate With Jealousy.](https://www.facebook.com/Hate.with.jealousy?ref=profile)
> 
> [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/BruisedNotB...ue?ref=profile)
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> [Pit Bulls and Itty Pitties](https://www.facebook.com/ittypitties?ref=profile)
> 
> [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blue-...27?ref=profile](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blue-...27?ref=profile)
> 
> Another Nutter who believed it was all in how you raised a pit bull, nurture not nature, ban the deed not the breed, nanny dog, all dogs bite, and 20 other sorts of pit bullshit.
> 
> Is anyone on SDMB truly surprised?
> 
> Anyone?

So you are saying that the likelihood of a dog biting is entirely based on their nature and no amount of nurturing could have trained the dog not to bite, that is what you are saying? Yes or no? I want your clear stance before I remark.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/9 "2013-10-08T21:03:11Z")

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We’re linking to individual peoples’ Facebook pages now?

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### Author: ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/10 "2013-10-08T21:06:39Z")

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I blame the robitussin.

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### Author: ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/11 "2013-10-08T21:24:07Z")

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I’m not sure I get the OP’s point. You like pitbulls?

But who wins, the lion, the tiger or a pack of rabid pitbulls?

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/12 "2013-10-08T21:30:22Z")

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> [@cougar58](#):
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> Authorities have now released the identity of the baby sitter, and confirmed it happened in her house.
> 
> We all knew the facts would later show - it was the baby sitters pit bull, they have now named the baby sitter (Mary Lane).

Congratulations! You got one, even though there was _no possible way_ you could have known who owned the dog before the release!

Now fuck off.

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/13 "2013-10-08T21:33:05Z")

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> [@AnthonyElite](#):
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> So you are saying that the likelihood of a dog biting is entirely based on their nature and no amount of nurturing could have trained the dog not to bite, that is what you are saying? Yes or no? I want your clear stance before I remark.

Don’t bother. You’ll just end up with 20 pages of anecdotes pretending to be data.

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### Author: ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/14 "2013-10-08T21:56:29Z")

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Meh, bulls don’t bother me much; I’d rather Pit roosters, myself.

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### Author: ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/15 "2013-10-08T22:02:46Z")

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Why is this Pitbull such a hot topic all of a sudden?

I had never even heard of Pitbull, now he has songs out with Shakira, Christina Aguilera, and some guy called Marc Anthony. He doesn’t even sing, and he’s just this skinny white dude, how exactly did he get so popular all of a sudden?

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### Author: ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/16 "2013-10-08T22:06:30Z")

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Hey I just thought of something. A pitbull could be the mascot for this board!

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### Author: ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/17 "2013-10-08T22:07:54Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Can we add in something about circumcision and de-clawing cats in here to get the trifecta?

Fat bike riders don’t tip when they eat at Applebee’s.

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### Author: ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/18 "2013-10-08T22:10:01Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Why is this Pitbull such a hot topic all of a sudden?
> 
> I had never even heard of Pitbull, now he has songs out with Shakira, Christina Aguilera, and some guy called Marc Anthony. He doesn’t even sing, and he’s just this skinny white dude, how exactly did he get so popular all of a sudden?

He’s “Mr. Worldwide.”

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### Author: ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/19 "2013-10-08T22:11:42Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> But who wins, the lion, the tiger or a pack of rabid pitbulls?

I saw a cougar fight a pitbull once. Don’t really remember who won. I think the pitbull just got bored and left.

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### Author: ![AnthonyElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@AnthonyElite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnthonyElite)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/20 "2013-10-08T22:45:28Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Don’t bother. You’ll just end up with 20 pages of anecdotes pretending to be data.

You’re right, arguing with this waste of jizz would imply that he had a leg to stand on.

I do propose, however, if cougar58 ever performs even the slightest act of aggression on another living creature he should be put down immediately. After all, it cannot be something he learned, and it can never be corrected. Right?

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