# Pit Bulls (continued) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714 "2013-10-08T19:18:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/601 "2014-01-04T19:28:53Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Just this past year, twice, my sister’s daschund ,Abby, suddenly jumped and attacked my face , once when I was bent over and once in the chair. No one could figure out what was the provocation. Never happened to anyone else. No blood though, no harm. Maybe you looked like a badger. Dachshunds are nasty little shits that were bred to kill badgers and are pure evil packed in a cylinder with surprisingly large and sharp teeth at one end, but I am not calling for the breed to be banned. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/602 "2014-01-04T21:24:08Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > I’m 52 years old. I have no idea how many stitches someone else needed 37 years ago. Why? Does it matter? Because I’m skeptical and like **Lily** you are being evasive. I don’t think your daschund did much harm. A couple of stitches at most , certainly not the “ripping open” of her face. > [@](#): > > So given my long-dead dachshund’s face-biting incident and your present two-time face-biting incidents from your sister’s dachshund, why aren’t you advocating for the banning of dachshunds? No harm, no foul. A one second attack each time with no penetration. We are both fortunate it was a daschund and not a pitbull. It amazes me to think that there are people who cannot make a distinction between a daschund bite and a pitbull mauling/kill. All dogs are not equal. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/603 "2014-01-04T22:48:54Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > It amazes me to think that there are people who cannot make a distinction between a daschund bite and a pitbull mauling/kill. All dogs are not equal. No, all dogs are not equal, but all dogs should be held to the same standard of basic behavior and that includes not biting. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/604 "2014-01-05T00:45:02Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Maybe you looked like a badger. Dachshunds are nasty little shits that were bred to kill badgers and are pure evil packed in a cylinder with surprisingly large and sharp teeth at one end, but I am not calling for the breed to be banned. They are the nastiest little fuckers…my family has had German shepherd Vizla/lab Rotty mix, big Rotty border collie Lab mix Boxer mix Doberman Beagle mix Curly haired smallish terrier mix Pit bull And multiple: cockers Great danes Bull mastiffs Golden retrievers Collies Border collie-ish mutts And one female miniature Dachshund. By far the most vicious, aggressive, unpleasant, untrainable beast of all was the Dachshund. By miles. Just fucking awful. And it is only very recently i learned that our experience matches studies on dog aggression. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/605 "2014-01-05T00:59:44Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > No harm, no foul. A one second attack each time with no penetration. We are both fortunate it was a daschund and not a pitbull. > > It amazes me to think that there are people who cannot make a distinction between a daschund bite and a pitbull mauling/kill. All dogs are not equal. If it had been any dog larger than the daschund it could have been worse. Why single out pit bulls? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/606 "2014-01-05T02:40:09Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > No, all dogs are not equal, but all dogs should be held to the same standard of basic behavior and that includes not biting. Amen. Nothing gets under my skin like people with little dogs that laugh at and encourage resource guarding aggression. It’s not cute, funny, or remotely alright. And yes, I can discern the difference in damage between a 5 pound dog and a 45 pound or 95 pound dog. Obviously bigger, more powerful dogs will do more damage when they bite. It doesn’t mean it’s ok for little dogs to bite or snap or be aggressive. NO dog should behave like that. (Exceptions for dogs under serious threat or stress such as that from pain when wounded…) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/607 "2014-01-05T02:41:41Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Because I’m skeptical and like **Lily** you are being evasive. I don’t think your daschund did much harm. A couple of stitches at most , certainly not the “ripping open” of her face. Not outside the realm of possibility. [A 42-year-old vet tech lost inches of her face to a mini Dachshund and needed two plastic surgeries.](http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/spork-gets-vicious-dog-reprieve) ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/608 "2014-01-05T03:31:58Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Because I’m skeptical and like **Lily** you are being evasive. I don’t think your daschund did much harm. A couple of stitches at most , certainly not the “ripping open” of her face. You really are a nasty little piece of filth, you know that? It was 37 years ago and I don’t fucking know, since they weren’t _my_ stitches is not evasive you vile cretin, it’s fact. What a despicable person you are. [Md. Infant Critical After Mauling by Family Dachshund](http://www.igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/2002/dachshund_attack.html) [Dachshund mutilates sleeping infant in Waukegan](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-11-06/news/0711050508_1_infant-boy-police-officials-dachshund) [Dachshunds Are More Aggressive - Dog Aggression Study](http://whitney05.hubpages.com/hub/Vicious-Dachshunds) \ ***The breed with the highest aggression toward strangers was the Dachshund with 20.6%** , Chihuahuas at 16.1%, and the Australian Cattle Dog at 9.6%. … About 86.5% of dogs showed no signs of aggression to other dogs, which is odd considering one of the biggest myth about “pit dogs” is that they are naturally dog aggressive. **Over 2/3 of the Pit Bulls in the study never showed any aggression to other dogs. Dachshunds, on the other hand had 30.3% aggression to dogs** , and Jack Russels had 30.8%, making the Dachshund and Jack Russel Terrier the most dog aggressive dogs according to this study.\* So chew on that you festering pustule. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/609 "2014-01-05T09:46:27Z")
I’ll hop on board the anti-daschund bandwagon when we have news stories of them killing dozens of kids. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/610 "2014-01-05T13:48:02Z")
Ok, this is driving me nuts. It’s “ **dachshund** ,” (“dachs” + “hund” meaning “badger dog.”) And it’s pronounced something like “docksund” in Englsh. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/611 "2014-01-05T16:41:51Z")
[Here’s the official soundtrack](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZHZeWmRP4) for this thread (from the band Pitbull Daycare). ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/612 "2014-01-05T18:32:33Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > I’ll hop on board the anti-daschund bandwagon when we have news stories of them killing dozens of kids. What if the news isn’t reporting the dachshund killings? How do we know the deaths reported as pit bull attacks weren’t actually dachshund mixes? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/613 "2014-01-05T18:46:56Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > I’ll hop on board the anti-daschund bandwagon when we have news stories of them killing dozens of kids. Where are the news stories of “pits bulls” killing “dozens of kids” per year? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/614 "2014-01-05T19:12:04Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > What if the news isn’t reporting the dachshund killings? Apparently the news isn’t reporting the “dozens” killed by bullies, either. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/615 "2014-01-05T19:35:43Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Where are the news stories of “pits bulls” killing “dozens of kids” per year? Think I may need to have my sight checked again as I don’t see the “per year” anywhere in **DA** ’s post. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/616 "2014-01-05T20:04:56Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Think I may need to have my sight checked again as I don’t see the “per year” anywhere in **DA** ’s post. Carried over from post 579. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/617 "2014-01-05T20:14:19Z")
What is being claimed is [dozens of kids a year are chewed to death by pit bulls](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16982098&postcount=579). ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/618 "2014-01-05T22:51:48Z")
[Pit bull fight!](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=562248337144425&set=a.373910432644884.73762.119997518036178&type=1) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/619 "2014-01-05T23:03:12Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > They are the nastiest little fuckers… > And it is only very recently i learned that our experience matches studies on dog aggression. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > Not outside the realm of possibility. [A 42-year-old vet tech lost inches of her face to a mini Dachshund and needed two plastic surgeries.](http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/spork-gets-vicious-dog-reprieve) I see. I can live with the danger that daschunds pose, what’s a face here and there, as I do wish to preserve the breed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/620 "2014-01-05T23:20:47Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > About 86.5% of dogs showed no signs of aggression to other dogs, which is odd considering one of the biggest myth about “pit dogs” is that they are naturally dog aggressive. **Over 2/3 of the Pit Bulls in the study never showed any aggression to other dogs. Dachshunds, on the other hand had 30.3% aggression to dogs** , and Jack Russels had 30.8%, making the Dachshund and Jack Russel Terrier the most dog aggressive dogs according to this study.\* > > So chew on that you festering pustule. “ **Over 2/3 of the Pit Bulls in the study never showed any aggression to other dogs** ” That can translate to 33.3% of Pit Bulls had signs of aggression towards other dogs, which is higher than 30.8 % and 30.3 % for Jack Russels and Daschunds. Sort of contradicts the conclusion or at the very least reveals an agenda driven study. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714.md?page=32)