# Pit Bulls (continued)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714 "2013-10-08T19:18:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 41

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/801 "2014-01-11T03:07:44Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I know a thing or two about incoherent PUI and I’m curious about why you are back from Happy Hour so early. Did they throw you out?

Never went. I have no idea what you are on about.

Obviously some sort of of weak-ass mocking. Thus it remains.

Have another one. Mayhaps you’ll start making sense. To you anyway.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/802 "2014-01-11T03:30:58Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Never went. I have no idea what you are on about.

Well, what **dropzone** is saying is that the quoted sentences of yours are a bit…um…hard to follow. I’m having difficulty understanding them. I’m not being snarky or deliberately obtuse. I really don’t understand what point is trying to be conveyed. I suppose I could just be an idiot–that’s always a possibility. But, regardless, it’s kind of incoherent to me.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/803 "2014-01-11T06:19:36Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Well, what **dropzone** is saying is that the quoted sentences of yours are a bit…um…hard to follow. I’m having difficulty understanding them. I’m not being snarky or deliberately obtuse. I really don’t understand what point is trying to be conveyed. I suppose I could just be an idiot–that’s always a possibility. But, regardless, it’s kind of incoherent to me.

Again, not sure what “I’m an American” w/regards to Pitbulls means – other than the fact that they are banned in some US counties and a few nations – and I replied in jest with the “invade” comment.

Is it really that hard to fallow? Not being snarky myself either…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/804 "2014-01-11T06:33:09Z")

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I still don’t understand what point you are trying to make. America invades countries that don’t allow pitbulls? And maybe I was not clear by trying to be subtle, using words like “incoherent” and “happy hour,” so I will be more direct: You sound drunk. Very drunk. And if you are not drunk, maybe you should look into why you sound drunk. Maybe you had a stroke.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/805 "2014-01-11T07:04:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I still don’t understand what point you are trying to make. America invades countries that don’t allow pitbulls?

Indeed. That’s the hyperbole – then again if it has to be explained either you or I didn’t do a good job at it, writing nor comprehending. Didn’t seem that hard.

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> And maybe I was not clear by trying to be subtle, using words like “incoherent” and “happy hour,” so I will be more direct: You sound drunk. Very drunk. And if you are not drunk, maybe you should look into why you sound drunk. Maybe you had a stroke.

You were quite clear. No stroke on my end. Nor booze either – haven’t had a drink for quite some time.

Have you?

Now, care to discuss the matter at hand, or would you rather keep on with the insults just because we are in the Pit? Not for nothing, but I can be pretty nasty myself…

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/806 "2014-01-11T07:36:02Z")

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So you are telling us

> [@RedFury](#):
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> Again, not sure what “I’m an American” w/regards to Pitbulls means

> [@Stoid](#):
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> The risk [of death due to attacks from pitbulls] is obviously higher for those of us who choose to put ourselves in the path of pit bulls, in the same way the risk is far higher of dying from guns if you own one, tobacco if you smoke it, ATVs if you ride them, etc. But I’m an American, and \*\*\*as such \*\*\*I have a great deal of _ **freedom** _ to do many things that endanger my life while posing an extremely low risk to yours if you are making different choices than I am.

> [@Stoid](#):
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> 😕  
> The only reason I framed it like that was \*\*\*to qualify that I was and am speaking about American laws. \*\*\* I often forget that the SDMB (like the internet itself, of course) has an international membership…

That in spite of the fact that you are (presumably, perhaps not…) a native English speaker, that you have no comprehension of what the words above mean? If that is genuinely the case, then I must offer you my condolences…having such severely impaired comprehension skills must be present a great many difficulties in your day to day life. But I commend you for continuing to challenge yourself by participating in these forums, bravo!

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/807 "2014-01-11T09:10:22Z")

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Actually I am a rare breed – English and Spanish are both native to me.

Mayhaps I can’t speak nor comprehend either when speaking with inbreds?

Can’t blame me for your shortcomings.

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/808 "2014-01-11T09:51:49Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Cougar sock in 3 . . . 2. . .

[Oh, well…](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrGhrzsINJ8&t=1m36s)

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/809 "2014-01-11T23:58:39Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Actually I am a rare breed – English and Spanish are both native to me.
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> Mayhaps I can’t speak nor comprehend either when speaking with inbreds?
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> Can’t blame me for your shortcomings.
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> Cheers.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/810 "2014-01-12T00:39:53Z")

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Well, as both English and Spanish he has benefited from hybrid vigor, and he’s a bit of a cock. In dog terms he’s an English Cocker Spaniel.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/811 "2014-01-12T03:12:55Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Well, as both English and Spanish he has benefited from hybrid vigor, and he’s a bit of a cock. In dog terms he’s an English Cocker Spaniel.

Doberman actually – he is not only multi-talented but a language-master. German was just the beginning. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/812 "2014-01-12T04:50:08Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Well, what **dropzone** is saying is that the quoted sentences of yours are a bit…um…hard to follow. I’m having difficulty understanding them. I’m not being snarky or deliberately obtuse. I really don’t understand what point is trying to be conveyed. I suppose I could just be an idiot–that’s always a possibility. But, regardless, it’s kind of incoherent to me.

Let me translate for you:

Duh… I are a eurosnob retard and a… uhh how do you say ‘asshole’ in Merukin?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/813 "2014-01-13T05:29:17Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Let me translate for you:
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> Duh… I are a eurosnob retard and a… uhh how do you say ‘asshole’ in Merukin?

I take it English is your semi-language. 'cause snarky or akin to funny they sure as fuck, aren’t.

Best stick to retard.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/814 "2014-01-13T05:37:23Z")

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Meanwhile, in English, 2014: [**Woman Attacked By Pit Bull During Seizure**](http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/08/Woman-Attacked-By-Pit-Bull-During-Seizure)

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/815 "2014-01-13T07:41:46Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Meanwhile, in English, 2014: [**Woman Attacked By Pit Bull During Seizure**](http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/08/Woman-Attacked-By-Pit-Bull-During-Seizure)

that’s unfortunate, the owner should have taken steps when the dog attacked in the past

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/816 "2014-01-13T10:28:31Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> that’s unfortunate, the owner should have taken steps when the dog attacked in the past

From the article:

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> The owner said he never had a problem with the dog and it have (sic) always been around children.

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**Author:** ![Lydia\_Phalfav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lydia\_Phalfav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lydia_Phalfav)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/817 "2014-01-13T10:49:18Z")

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"According to the **victim** , the pit bull was not friendly and had attacked her in the past. "

" The **owner** said he never had a problem with the dog and it have always been around children."

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/818 "2014-01-13T11:36:26Z")

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Homeless woman killed by pitbulls: [Dogs who killed homeless woman will be euthanized](http://www.chron.com/default/article/Dogs-who-killed-homeless-woman-will-be-euthanized-5119426.php)

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/819 "2014-01-13T13:02:15Z")

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I cannot understand why anyone – as qualified as they might be, and most aren’t – would have an animal as part of their responsibility who could kill someone, and the intelligence level of, perhaps, a 2 year old kid. Isn’t that a disaster ready to happen? Not to every owner, of course, the great majority don’t have to deal with disasters like their dog killing their neighbor or their kid or the guy walking by with a limp…but some do, and there was no need for them to ever have to.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/820 "2014-01-13T15:42:17Z")

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> [@Lydia\_Phalfav](#):
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> “According to the **victim** , the pit bull was not friendly and had **attacked her in the past.** ”

> [@Ca3799](#):
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> Homeless woman killed by pitbulls: [http://www.chron.com/default/article/Dogs-who-killed-homeless-woman-will-be-euthanized-5119426.php](http://www.chron.com/default/article/Dogs-who-killed-homeless-woman-will-be-euthanized-5119426.php)

And from this article:

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> the dogs’ owner has received multiple citations for **improper care of the animals**. …
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> The owner has been cited for **allowing the dogs to run at large**. After officials discovered four puppies in her apartment, she also was ticketed for not having current rabies vaccinations or pet licenses for any of the six dogs and for violating the city’s animal “care and keeping” regulation.
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> “The apartment was kept in an **awful condition** ,” Newport said, adding that there were “ **feces and urine everywhere.** ”

How is it y’all aren’t getting it yet? The breed of dog is not the problem; the bad owners of these dogs are _creating_ the problem.

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