# Pit Bulls (continued)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 8, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714 "2013-10-08T19:18:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/941 "2014-01-26T22:14:47Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> [Nuns Adopt A 9-Year-Old Pit Bull ‘Because Nobody Else Is Going To Want Her’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/25/nuns-adopt-elderly-pit-bull_n_4661476.html)
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> Good thing G-d isn’t as willfully ignorant as some of the people here.

Nuns are not God. It is beyond sacrilegious to imply otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/942 "2014-01-26T22:18:51Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Nuns are not God. It is beyond sacrilegious to imply otherwise.

I did no such thing you stupid jackass. Nuns live their lives to serve G-d and do His will. Clearly they believe it was G-d’s will that they were driven to adopt that precious dog. Hence, thank G-d himself that He isn’t as stupid as you are.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/943 "2014-01-26T22:41:26Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Nuns are not God. It is beyond sacrilegious to imply otherwise.

That really was an astonishingly stupid thing to say and as a response to Shayna’s post it was a complete non sequitor.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/944 "2014-01-26T23:02:27Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> That really was an astonishingly stupid thing to say and as a response to Shayna’s post it was a complete non sequitor.

Not in the least… I don’t want this to turn into a major hijack we can start another thread to discuss what nun is or is not.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/945 "2014-01-27T01:10:12Z")

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Shayna explained what she said, though it was pretty fucking obvious she did not say what you claim she said.

I’m not sure I like this place anymore. My memory is getting better and I’m starting to remember who is unpleasant, stupid, and crazy. One or two I’ll forgive, but you’ve hit the trifecta lately.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/946 "2014-01-27T01:59:57Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Not in the least… I don’t want this to turn into a major hijack we can start another thread to discuss what nun is or is not.

So, your intention was just to create a \*minor \*hijack? Because your statement was completely off topic…so why did you feel the need to say it at all?

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/947 "2014-01-27T02:17:15Z")

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Well this thread has had both sides calling the other stupid. **Cartooniverse** was just coming in to provide an example of a stupid person we can all agree on. Your work here is done toony please move along.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/948 "2014-01-27T03:02:42Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Shayna explained what she said, though it was pretty fucking obvious she did not say what you claim she said.
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> I’m not sure I like this place anymore. My memory is getting better and I’m starting to remember who is unpleasant, stupid, and crazy. One or two I’ll forgive, but you’ve hit the trifecta lately.

Only lately? Where’ve you been hanging around all this time, **drop**?

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/949 "2014-01-27T04:45:13Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Of course it doesn’t make sense to me because it’s stupid.  
> Anyone with a brain knows you don’t leave young children alone with large, strong dogs of any breed, any more than you should leave young children alone next to a half-filled 5-gallon bucket of water or in a bathtub with even just a few inches of water in it. But there will always be some subset of stupid people whose children die from drowning in their homes, including in buckets. You want to ban buckets and bathtubs now, too, considering the high incidence of children drowning compared to the risk of children begin killed by pit bull-type dogs?
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> Anyone with a brain knows you don’t tie a dog up on a chain in a yard and leave them there with next to no human interaction, let alone affection and attention. But there will always be some subset of people stupid enough to do this to their animals. The answer isn’t to prevent everyone from having these dogs, but to remove the dogs from _these particular people_.
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> And no one said experts are required to train these dogs; they’re perfectly disposed to learning commands from their owners, as my two have. These dogs will come to a sudden and full stop on my verbal command alone now, no expert necessary.

You just don’t see too many stories about bathtubs and buckets of water chasing people and attacking them and their pets, or jumping their fence or 'I don’t know how they got out" ing. People who negligently harm their children with bathtubs and guns and poison products and God knows what else…should rot in hell, I guess. But they don’t generally pose a threat to me or mine unless they own an aggressive dog.

Now, if you want to take away, permanently, the license to drive of anyone caught driving under the influence of drink or drugs? go right ahead, I’ll lead the applause.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/950 "2014-01-27T05:30:40Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Only lately? Where’ve you been hanging around all this time, **drop**?

Here, obviously, but I banged my head some time back and one of the great pleasures of that was that I had trouble remembering who pissed me off, so I defaulted to liking everybody. Now I’m getting better and I know I like **crucible** fine, outside this thread, but my encounters with **'toon** lately have not been joyous. I used to cut him some slack because I thought it was 9/11 PTSD, but I’ve been told he’s always been like that.

I recall you and I having a tiff about something many years ago, but I remember none of the details and I might (might?) have been drinking at the time.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/951 "2014-01-27T05:37:47Z")

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Oh, and I heard someplace today that in 1900 pitbull-types were so popular in the US that they made up fully half the dog population. Yet the US is still inhabited by humans, many of whom are descended from people living here in 1900. Me, for instance. There apparently was no massive depopulation caused by all those pits running loose (few if any leash laws), or we’d have heard about it. I need to verify the dog statistic and check for the inevitable mass killings.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/952 "2014-01-27T06:24:02Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I used to cut him some slack because I thought it was 9/11 PTSD, but I’ve been told he’s always been like that.

Always.

> [@dropzone](#):
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> I recall you and I having a tiff about something many years ago, but I remember none of the details and I might (might?) have been drinking at the time.

I have no such recollection, but if we tiffed, it was merely a tiff. People tiff and move on all the time. Cartoonface is a whole 'nother animal.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/953 "2014-01-28T00:25:52Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> So, your intention was just to create a \*minor \*hijack? Because your statement was completely off topic…so why did you feel the need to say it at all?

Since I quoted **Shayna** directly, my statement was not completely off-topic. It was a reply to something she said.

And, as I posted, my remark was as valid as any other post in this thread- but it did lead the conversation in another direction. Hence my remark on not wanting to do a big hijack of a thread on murderous pit bulls.

Instead of a hijack, here’s [a separate thread on what a nun is and whether or not God is physically manifested through nuns.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17052239#post17052239).

Unlike the sad and tiresome personal attacks indulged here in this thread ( which are in fact a real hijack ), I’ve taken the high road and opened a new thread. You know. Like Dopers do who know better. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/954 "2014-01-28T22:21:40Z")

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I have a question for my fellow pit-parents: do your kids have unusually thick nails, with unusually long quicks? My girl is turning out to be on the small side, but she’s got some serious feet and some VERY serious toenails, which are much too thick to cut, and especially so because the quick runs far into the nail. Is this a pit bull bug, or a feature? (I am awaiting delivery of what appears to be a high-end nail grinder reduced to a ridiculously low price on Amazon. I bought one of those "As Seen On TV versions, but it wasn’t nearly tough enough to do the job…)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/955 "2014-01-28T22:34:50Z")

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I use a dremel tool with a sanding cone on our dogs’ toenails. They didn’t like it at first (and still don’t) but rewarding good behavior is a great training tool. Initially I took off 1/16 inch every few days, rewarding with turkey liver after each foot. You can go beyond the quick if necessary, since the heat generated cauterizes any bleeding.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/956 "2014-01-28T23:17:36Z")

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**Stoid** , does she walk on sidewalks or streets much? That can help a tiny bit.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/957 "2014-01-28T23:54:08Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> I have a question for my fellow pit-parents: do your kids have unusually thick nails, with unusually long quicks? My girl is turning out to be on the small side, but she’s got some serious feet and some VERY serious toenails, which are much too thick to cut, and especially so because the quick runs far into the nail. Is this a pit bull bug, or a feature? (I am awaiting delivery of what appears to be a high-end nail grinder reduced to a ridiculously low price on Amazon. I bought one of those "As Seen On TV versions, but it wasn’t nearly tough enough to do the job…)

It’s nothing pit specific. Some dogs just have nails that are harder to deal with. My dog’s nails get worn down enough from his regular activity I’ve only ever needed to trim his dew claws when they get too sharp for comfort.

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/958 "2014-01-29T01:33:49Z")

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My pit bull/German shepherd mix gets some crazy long nails. He’s pretty good about letting me cut them, though, with doggy nail cutters. The pit bull/Sharpei mix manages to keep his nails short somehow.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/959 "2014-01-29T03:53:38Z")

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I have a professional groomer come with their dog-washing van once a month and they trim the doggie’s nails when they give them their baths. But yes, they have incredibly long quicks.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-bulls-continued/670714/960 "2014-01-29T05:21:49Z")

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Animals’ (dogs, cats, birds) quicks recede when you cut their nails, but you have to clip them only a bit at a time, with some days between clippings. And think about filling your lungs with powdered dog nails before using one of those grinders. You know where your dog walks. Gross!

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