# Pit Rules, Revisited **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 26, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289 "2009-07-26T03:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/61 "2009-11-18T18:01:57Z")
You misunderstand, I’m not quibbling at the ban, I’m simply saying _fuck off_ is in no way, shape of form an invitation to the sexual act, as you wrote. Or, as it occurs to me now, did you mean _intimation_? (ie it intimates to the sexual act.) ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/62 "2009-11-18T18:40:22Z")
Well, “refers to” is probably a better phrasing than “invites a,” if that’s what you’re objecting to. If you’re objecting to the idea that “fuck off” implies or refers to a sex act, then, again, you can take up that line of reasoning with Ed. For reference: > [@Proposed language restrictions in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-language-restrictions-in-the-pit/487910/9): > > Second thought: **Ed, is the issue here _direct_ insults of other posters/members of the Dope using offensive language with words referring to sex acts** (which could cover most, if not all, of what you list, and f\*lch as well)? But you could still use those terms regarding someone/something _outside_ the Doper community? Because that’s what I’m getting out of it. > [@Proposed language restrictions in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-language-restrictions-in-the-pit/487910/14): > > **Yes.** Not saying we encourage such things, and if your posting repertoire consisted entirely of obscene rants about politicians or whoever, we’d likely tell you to knock it off. But that’s what our policy has always been. [Bolding in both quotes mine, natch.] ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/63 "2009-11-18T21:03:32Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > You misunderstand, I’m not quibbling at the ban, I’m simply saying _fuck off_ is in no way, shape of form an invitation to the sexual act, as you wrote. > > Or, as it occurs to me now, did you mean _intimation_? (ie it intimates to the sexual act.) I agree with you. “Fuck Off” and “Fuck You” really have no implied literal meaning other than “I express my displeasure with you using one of the strongest phrases society/culture has standardized on” ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/64 "2009-11-19T00:46:10Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > I agree with you. “Fuck Off” and “Fuck You” really have no implied literal meaning other than “I express my displeasure with you using one of the strongest phrases society/culture has standardized on” I’ve mentioned this before, but in some places “Fuck off” and “Fuck You” also means “Surely you are pulling my leg!” or “I am jealous of your good fortune, but in a friendly way”. It’s not automatically a heinous insult worthy of UN sanctions. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/65 "2009-11-19T03:26:05Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > **Dex** , what should we do when a rules violation is reported via the triangle, and there is no response whatsoever from the mods in question? Are you still blathering about this? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/66 "2009-11-19T04:04:11Z")
Due respect, Guin, but that was pretty rude. Especially considering the forum. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/67 "2009-11-19T05:49:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Are you still blathering about this? :rolleyes: Do you have any self awareness? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289/68 "2009-11-19T06:34:08Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > **Dex** , what should we do when a rules violation is reported via the triangle, and there is no response whatsoever from the mods in question? With all due respect, **Carol** – and IMO it’s a perfectly fine question to ask; this isn’t “pile on **Carol Stream** outside the Pit day” – what you or I report is **what we perceive** as a rules violation. Like balls and strikes in baseball, “it ain’t nothin’ until the umpire calls 'em.” In other words, if I, angry with some of your comments, posted “Fuck off and die,” odds are that that would indeed be seen as a rules violation, and you would be right to report it. But, and here’s my key point, it isn’t a violation until they call it one, and decide on how to proceed with it. In that case, I’d expect to get warned. But your later example, “why don’t you go the fuck away?” might not be seen as quite as offensive, and might not be considered a rules violation. My assumption is, while it’s nice when they respond to a report by PM or e-mail, no response after a couple of days indicates that they didn’t deem it a violation, and are letting it stand. It’s not a violation if it offends you, or me, or any other regular member – what the collective opinion of staff, with or without the final say of **Ed Zotti** (who is in the last analysis responsible for this board) is what the decision is made on. You’ve said some things I personally considered highly repellent but which were clearly acceptable under the rules, and I have little doubt that the reverse is true as well. It’s their decision, not yours or mine, what constitutes a rules violation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-rules-revisited/504289.md?page=3)