# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/521 "2022-05-28T16:36:35Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I mean this is a frankly stupid post. The Pit is a forum with relaxed moderation rules. But the general norms of society still exist. Out in the real world, where there are no moderators, I can act like we’re allowed to act in the Pit 24/7. I don’t. Almost no one does. Why? Because it is rude, annoying, makes you look stupid, and is generally antisocial and dumb. Behavior that falls into those categories, just because it is “allowed” doesn’t exempt the people from engaging in it from being called out for being rude, dumb, histrionic, et cetera. The Pit is a place you can act stupid without losing your posting privileges, it doesn’t immunize your behavior from scrutiny. I’d tell you to get out of the Pit, but the people who need that advice almost never follow it. Take your real world scrutiny, apply it to your “logic” about gun rights versus lives, and fuck all the way off. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/522 "2022-05-28T17:25:49Z")
> [@Drsunflower1](#): > > You still haven’t answered my question . I don’t know that I’ve even bothered to read it–you’re someone who wishes death on innocent people. There is no dialogue for us to have. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/523 "2022-05-28T17:33:21Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > you’re someone who wishes death on innocent people “I also firmly want it understood—I am 100% willing to trade more deaths for gun rights.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/524 "2022-05-28T17:37:22Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > you’re someone who wishes death on innocent people. This only follows if you believe that people that you know are the only innocent people. Otherwise, you are the one wishing death on innocent people, they just wished that you could put a face to them. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/525 "2022-05-28T18:18:06Z")
Winner, winner, chicken dinner ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/526 "2022-05-28T19:11:29Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > He’s either a gun nut, or a fan of colonization and empire, or—most probably I think—both. Oh, yes, very definitely both. The gun nut part is obvious from his posts in this thread (and username and previous avatar), As for the other - [always](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-seriously-consider-colonialism-again/359130) [has](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/un-pc-beliefs/555823/17) [been](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-golden-age-of-the-west/533575/109) a completely out-and-proud [colonialism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-post-colonial-african-countries-should-not-have-handed-over-power-so-quickly/521796) fan. [Still is](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/275). Which is one reason why I have no time for the little koala-fucker (they have to be getting that chlamydia from _somewhere_!) That and his transphobia - disguised as an objection to indicating preferred pronouns but made obvious by his preferred terminology of “weird”. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/527 "2022-05-28T21:24:38Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Oh, yes, very definitely both. The gun nut part is obvious from his posts in this thread (and username and previous avatar), As for the other - [always](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-seriously-consider-colonialism-again/359130) [has](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/un-pc-beliefs/555823/17) [been](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-golden-age-of-the-west/533575/109) a completely out-and-proud [colonialism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maybe-post-colonial-african-countries-should-not-have-handed-over-power-so-quickly/521796) fan. [Still is](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/275). Holy shit! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/528 "2022-05-28T21:56:25Z")
But he’s so reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/529 "2022-05-28T22:29:02Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I don’t know that I’ve even bothered to read it–you’re someone who wishes death on innocent people. There is no dialogue for us to have. What you meant to say is: "I don’t like it when you make me think that all the gun deaths that I am very happy to trade for my warm gun might _just be people I know."_ ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/530 "2022-05-29T04:37:06Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > The Pit is a forum with relaxed moderation rules. But the general norms of society still exist. Out in the real world, where there are no moderators, I can act like we’re allowed to act in the Pit 24/7. I don’t. Almost no one does. Why? Because it is rude, annoying, makes you look stupid, and is generally antisocial and dumb. Behavior that falls into those categories, just because it is “allowed” doesn’t exempt the people from engaging in it from being called out for being rude, dumb, histrionic, et cetera. But isn’t it rather silly to make a special point of calling out behavior you disapprove of in a forum that’s specifically set up as a space to engage in such behavior? I mean, if you don’t like the type of behavior that the Pit is specifically for, you don’t have to read or post in Pit threads. But I don’t see the point of going into the Pit in order to scold people for being Pitty. That’s rather like going to a dance club to complain about the music being too loud. (Note also that the post of mine you were responding to was specifically about a post complaining that aggressively rude behavior in the Pit didn’t get restrained by the moderators. That’s not a realistic expectation: mods don’t shut down aggressively rude behavior in the Pit unless it violates forum rules.) ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/531 "2022-05-29T04:41:16Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I mean, if you don’t like the type of behavior that the Pit is specifically for, you don’t have to read or post in Pit threads. But I don’t see the point of going into the Pit in order to scold people for being Pitty. That’s rather like going to a dance club to complain about the music being too loud. That’s funny for a post in a thread with my name in the title. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/532 "2022-05-29T04:48:50Z")
What’s funny about it? If you really disapprove of the whole concept of Pit-style behavior “because it is rude, annoying, makes you look stupid, and is generally antisocial and dumb”, then you are free to abstain from any and all Pit threads whether or not they are nominally about you. Remember, you don’t have to play a game you don’t like just because somebody invited you by name. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/533 "2022-05-29T04:54:43Z")
Standing by for: “You can’t tell me not to be here” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/534 "2022-05-29T05:00:51Z")
I could swear he already left a thread, maybe it was this one, but I ain’t bored enough to look. He also said he wasn’t responding to me any more and I see how that worked out. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/535 "2022-05-29T11:52:54Z")
Let’s remember, you’re the guy who facilitates murder. I think part of America’s problem is that we’ve been too polite to people like you. Stop being a piece of shit and I’ll stop calling you a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/536 "2022-05-29T12:04:15Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > That’s rather like going to a dance club to complain about the music being too loud. I always think of it as a member of the Woman’s Christian Temperance Movement going to a saloon and being shocked, _shocked_, _ **shocked!** _ to find drinking in this establishment. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/537 "2022-05-29T14:34:15Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Let’s remember, you’re the guy who facilitates murder. I think part of America’s problem is that **we’ve been too polite to people like you.** Emphasis mine. This, 100,000% this. Enough is enough. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/538 "2022-05-29T14:41:07Z")
“Stop telling me that my love of guns and support for their unregulated sale and use is causing children to be murdered. You’re hurting my feelings.” Fuck your feelings. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/539 "2022-05-29T14:56:51Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fuck your feelings. “Facts don’t care about your feelings.” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/540 "2022-05-29T14:57:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I always think of it as a member of the Woman’s Christian Temperance Movement going to a saloon and being shocked, _shocked_ , _ **shocked!** _ to find drinking in this establishment. Eh, I’m not a fan of the WCTU, but none of them were shocked at alcohol in a saloon. Why else do you think Carrie Nation brought her ax along? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=28)