# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/561 "2022-05-29T17:11:54Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > which is precisely what I have done. Ah, yes, there’s that **SlackerInc** playbook again. Self-delusion to the point of absurdity. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > adroitly counters > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Reduced several other posters to literally nothing Aah, yes, the _deja vu_ is strong with this one… **Slack** also thought he was some kind of Master Debater… [![](https://i.imgflip.com/4fmt18.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/4fmt18.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/562 "2022-05-29T17:37:40Z")
You’re upset because when you said you wanted to be 100% clear, you were. We understand you and your morality perfectly. And I didn’t wish death on anyone. You’re unhinged. It’s impolite to kill children, though. In case no one ever told you that. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/563 "2022-05-29T17:41:15Z")
Your oft repeated retreat is the sanctity of the second amendment (my hyperbole was an illustration) You reject reasonable solutions that have been offered by others. Safe storage and cased transport are not onerous and do not abridge any right to bear arms. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/564 "2022-05-29T17:43:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Aah, yes, the _deja vu_ is strong with this one… **Slack** also thought he was some kind of Master Debater… Maybe you should reach out to “Slack”, someone you appear to want to talk to a lot. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/565 "2022-05-29T17:46:40Z")
Naah, I’m good, thanks. Don’t miss _him_, won’t miss _you_ when you do the racist flame-out thing your ilk is wont to. I just find the obvious patterns in delusional nutjob debate tactics amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/566 "2022-05-29T17:47:31Z")
And of course, there is the random unsubstantiated racism accusation again. I feel like we missed one of your “witty” ad hominem attacks to sign off the post though, maybe you’re not feeling 100% and forgot it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/567 "2022-05-29T17:49:49Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > And of course, there is the random unsubstantiated racism accusation again. You substantiated it plenty yourself already. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I feel like we missed one of your “witty” ad hominem attacks to sign off the post though Like I already told you, the “dance, monkey” act didn’t work for **Slack** , it’s not going to work for you, either. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/568 "2022-05-29T17:50:50Z")
Your use of the word “act” in reference to me is pretty interesting, since that’s essentially all you’ve done on these forums for years. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/569 "2022-05-29T18:00:48Z")
“No, U” was _also_ a favoured Slacktic. Get a new script. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/570 "2022-05-29T18:12:55Z")
Again–you and your entire coterie have literally posted dozens of times in this thread essentially just repeating the same post over and over again. Attempting to paint someone else as having a repetitive “schtick” is to laugh. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/571 "2022-05-29T18:20:34Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > you […] have literally posted dozens of times in this thread essentially just repeating the same post over and over again. Liar. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Attempting to paint someone else as having a repetitive “schtick” is to laugh. It’s not that it’s repetitive, it’s which shithead it’s repetitive of. The most idiotic kind of self-delusional racist bigot. You out yourself every time you follow his dance steps. When you’re _not_ outing yourself by talking about inner city crime and illegal immigrants, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/572 "2022-05-29T18:48:53Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Liar. Again–you are the liar. You’ve spent the last few posts trying to equate me to an antisemitic banned troll. That’s a lie, simply put. I know it may be convenient for you if everyone you disliked on these forums was a raging antisemite whose banning was imminent, but that isn’t reality. It also of course explains why you levy the charge of racism at anyone who disagrees with you on any topic ever. > [@MrDibble](#): > > It’s not that it’s repetitive, it’s which shithead it’s repetitive of. The most idiotic kind of self-delusional racist bigot. You out yourself every time you follow his dance steps. When you’re _not_ outing yourself by talking about inner city crime and illegal immigrants, that is. Case in point. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/573 "2022-05-29T20:20:25Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Again–you are the liar. “No, U” > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > You’ve spent the last few posts trying to equate me to an antisemitic banned troll. Saying you use the same playbook is not “equating you”, idiot. For all his faults, **Slacker** didn’t get his rocks off of tools that kill kids, like you do. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Case in point. If the shoe fits… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/574 "2022-05-29T20:59:34Z")
re-asking: > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > That’s a reasonable opinion, I’m certainly not perfect at expressing myself. From my personal perspective, I am largely “numb” to school shootings. While they are terrible, I don’t react to them emotionally. I did when Columbine happened, I did when Newtown happened, I even did when Marjory Stoneman Douglas happened, **but I don’t really think I have that in me anymore.** re: the bolded. How come? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/575 "2022-05-29T21:56:59Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > The problem with threads like these is that there are a lot of gun supporters out there and it’s important to understand their perspective if any real change is going to be made. Maybe they could try to understand our perspective. Why is it only ever asked of Democrats to understand the other side (i.e. we just need to try to understand where Trump supporters are coming from)? No one ever asks this of Republicans. And we have tried this for years. What we get in return is “LOL fuck you!”. How do you compromise with people who say “you want to ban all guns” in response to every single idea, no matter how common-sense it is? You can’t have a good-faith debate with people who think compromise means capitulation. There was a time in this country when legislators knew that you had to work together and, yes, compromise for the good of the people. One side has abandoned that idea, their supporters have followed their example and the result is the absolute inability to discuss our problems rationally. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/576 "2022-05-29T22:23:38Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > gain–you and your entire coterie have literally posted dozens of times in this thread essentially just repeating the same post over and over again. Yes, your immoral, disgusting, 100% clear _pro-death to others so I can keep my guns_ post has been repeated often, and you continue to try to pretend it away. Sorry it hurts your feelings to have your immoral words repeated back to you. Actually, fuck your feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/577 "2022-05-30T10:25:47Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > From my personal perspective, I am largely “numb” to school shootings. > > I don’t really think I have that in me anymore. I’m somewhat in the same place. I heard about this latest shooting, and hardly felt a thing. That isn’t a good thing, these events have broken off a piece of our humanity. Ground us down until we hear about little kids being gunned down at school and immediately think “here come the gun grabbers” or “let’s see those tots and pears”. You should feel something when these things happen. Taking the emotion out of children being gunned down by the dozen isn’t healthy or normal. Emotion is part of what makes humans different than animals, it’s part of how we decide right from wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/578 "2022-05-30T10:48:59Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > This person adroitly counters all of their false and low information statements, while remaining civil and dismissing their arguments without resorting to childish behavior. OK - so explain how flooding the general population with military style, semi-automatic weapons is other than mining a domestic market for dollars or simply serving the sanctity of the second amendment. I realize my arguments are repetitive. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/579 "2022-05-30T10:55:16Z")
I neglected to mock that ridiculous “this person” self-reference in my first reply. What was I thinking? That’s comedy gold right there. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/580 "2022-05-31T11:08:46Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > You should feel something when these things happen. Taking the emotion out of children being gunned down by the dozen isn’t healthy or normal. Emotion is part of what makes humans different than animals, it’s part of how we decide right from wrong. To a point, I agree. But we shouldn’t let emotion push us to make proposals or laws that simply won’t be supported. Be sad, but smart. Compromise because that’s the system we have now. Emotion, obviously, can be dangerous, and sometimes numbing is for the best. @Martin_Hyde -why are you so wedded to preserving gun rights? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=30)