# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/901 "2022-07-10T17:41:18Z")
Keep crying. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/902 "2022-07-10T17:46:25Z")
Your opinion of yourself–that your dumbshittery could move me to any emotion beyond annoyance–is staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/903 "2022-07-10T20:08:03Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I posted a polite inquiry, you declined to respond, and asked me to respond to a question of yours which I politely declined. It seems to me that should be the end of it. If he doesn’t want to respond to you and you declined to speak to him, even explicitly stating that you “don’t see much to debate, and have no interest in the discussion” then what’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/904 "2022-07-11T13:15:49Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I posted a polite inquiry, you declined to respond, and asked me to respond to a question of yours which I politely declined. The only person acting rudely here is you. I suggest getting emotional help. ⁢ No, you took a thread that was about separating the different types of bigotry and tried to hijack it into a thread about affirmative action. That was possibly a mistake. But then, when you were told this wasn’t that thread, you accused the OP of just stating platitudes. **That’s an insult.** What’s more, you misstated the topic of the thread. It clearly wasn’t “systemic racist is bad.” It was a discussion about how the word “racist” can mean different things, and that often we create confusion by treating them as the same. And now, of course, you’re telling people they need “emotional help”, i.e. shitting on people with mental illness. All in an attempt to cover for the fact that you decided to be an asshole. Being polite doesn’t make something not an insult. Miss Manners is all about learning how to be insulting while superficially being polite. And that’s exactly what you were. You could have just said “sorry, I didn’t understand the topic of the thread,” but you had to get in a barb about how it was just “platitudes,” while misrepresenting what the thread was about. Given that, it seems that your intentions in bringing up AA was probably the same as those who bring up trans athletics in trans threads. You wanted to steer the conversation. And when you failed, you decided to be deliberately irritating. It’s telling how much more polite you were to someone saying far worse about you (Jackmannii). ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/905 "2022-07-11T13:22:43Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > No, you took a thread that was about separating the different types of bigotry and tried to hijack it into a thread about affirmative action. That was possibly a mistake. But then, when you were told this wasn’t that thread, you accused the OP of just stating platitudes. **That’s an insult.** No, that is not what happened. Your false claim is a lie–which itself is rude and inappropriate behavior. The rest of your post was not read as you chose to start your comment with a lie, and lies are not worthy of further discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/906 "2022-07-11T14:29:18Z")
nm . . . . ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/907 "2022-07-11T14:59:42Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > No, that is not what happened. Pretty much is, except that you were trying to hijack it into a thread about merit-based scholarships etc., not about affirmative action. The AA hijack was someone else. As you can see from how the thread progressed, there’s plenty to discuss and debate in the OP. You just weren’t bright enough to understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/908 "2022-07-11T15:39:53Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > > > I posted a polite inquiry, you declined to respond, and asked me to respond to a question of yours which I politely declined. > > It seems to me that should be the end of it. If he doesn’t want to respond to you and you declined to speak to him, even explicitly stating that you “don’t see much to debate, and have no interest in the discussion” then what’s the problem? [![](https://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png) ](https://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png) ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/909 "2022-07-11T16:07:48Z")
Yes, except literally none of the discussion that has happened has actually been about the narrow concept of differentiation between three closely related types of bad thing. In fact some of the discussion has clearly been outside that frame, but I guess because an “evil conservative” wasn’t the one doing it you didn’t slur it by lying and saying it was an attempt to “hijack” and go crying in the pit about it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/910 "2022-07-11T16:18:53Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Yes, except literally none of the discussion that has happened has actually been about the narrow concept of differentiation between three closely related types of bad thing. It has been, though. Your dimwittery and inability to follow the conversation is not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/911 "2022-07-11T16:57:17Z")
Except no, it hasn’t. The conversation has mostly been back and forth of the nature of “is x bigotry” or not, which wasn’t at all what you (in your crybaby response) claimed you wanted. It’s pretty clear you’re a fairly stupid person, and a liar to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/912 "2022-07-11T17:01:42Z")
Said a skunk to a tube-rose, “See how swiftly I run, while you cannot walk nor even creep.” Said the tube-rose to the skunk, “Oh, most noble swift runner, please run swiftly!” -Kahlil Gbran ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/913 "2022-07-11T17:03:32Z")
Yes, randomly selecting someone else’s words to paste in is a significant improvement over your own, at least the person you’re quoting isn’t an imbecile and loser. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/914 "2022-07-11T17:04:50Z")
It is super cool how you’re calling me stupid in the same sentence where you call that quote a random choice. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/915 "2022-07-11T17:06:53Z")
Oh I’m sure you thought, given the various delusions and lies you’ve been posting it was applicable, but that doesn’t make it so. I don’t give you any credit in the selection, only in your correct instinct you would do better to not challenge me with your own meager intellect. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/916 "2022-07-11T17:08:14Z")
ok cool! ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/917 "2022-07-11T17:11:18Z")
And the fool absconds from the field of battle. Should probably stick to your minimum wage jobs teaching school kids or something (or maybe you’re just on welfare / mental disability now like a lot of this forum, dunno), will probably let you feel better about yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/918 "2022-07-11T17:27:36Z")
👍 😀 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/919 "2022-07-11T17:38:17Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Should probably stick to your minimum wage jobs teaching school kids or something Only a fucking tool like you would think this is an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/920 "2022-07-11T17:42:18Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Only a fucking tool like you would think this is an insult. I mean, none of his insults are landing, so no worries on that count. “Absconds from the field of battle,” though? _Comedy gold_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=47)