# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/921 "2022-07-11T17:47:06Z")
Of course they are–if they didn’t work you wouldn’t respond. Pretty predictable doper behavior. > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Only a fucking tool like you would think this is an insult. Spare me. Low wage workers who hand out worksheets and nap in the corner are worthy of mockery, not respect. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/922 "2022-07-11T17:54:59Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [http://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png](http://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png) > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I posted a polite inquiry > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I politely declined > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > The only person acting rudely here is you > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Your false claim is a lie–which itself is rude and inappropriate behavior. Yup, that adds up. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/923 "2022-07-11T18:45:32Z")
I know child sex abusing billionaires are your heroes. It doesn’t mean they are actually praiseworthy. It means you’re a bootlicking piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/924 "2022-07-12T00:03:25Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Low wage workers who hand out worksheets and nap in the corner are worthy of mockery, not respect. Martin, if you sincerely think that someone like LHoD—who has contributed enlightening and well-thought-out accounts from his professional perspective to pretty much every SDMB thread I’ve ever seen on pedagogical issues—views teaching as an opportunity to “hand out worksheets and nap in the corner”, then I’m a bit worried about the depth of your perceptual disconnect from reality. Or else, if you are just lazily assuming that “underpaid”—which goodness knows most teachers are—automatically equates to “unmotivated slacker drudge with no important responsibilities”, then congratulations on successfully embodying, with a single sentence, every stereotype of ignorant boorish conservatives who can’t understand any measure of value or merit except wealth. Or else, to grasp at a flimsy straw of hope here, maybe it’ll turn out to be the case that you’re just drunk off your ass and have no real idea what you’re even saying. Fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/925 "2022-07-12T00:09:58Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Should probably stick to your minimum wage jobs teaching school kids or something Your put down is that LHoD is a teacher?! You are really bad at this. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/926 "2022-07-12T00:17:23Z")
Or else, with any luck, he’s just drunk off his ass. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/927 "2022-07-12T00:23:01Z")
Is that a thing he does? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/928 "2022-07-12T02:12:09Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Or else, with any luck, he’s just drunk off his ass. Honestly, I think he lost his cool, realizing that he’d misjudged that thread and that it had passed him by, and petulantly lashed out. It’s possible that if he were a little calmer his insults wouldn’t be so ridiculously inept. (And thanks for the kind words!) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/929 "2022-07-12T08:29:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > . “Absconds from the field of battle,” though? _Comedy gold_. It does have a certain quality to it. A [familiar](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-have-a-thread-for-slackerinc-yet-maybe-we-should/825461/1026) note… [![](https://i.imgflip.com/4fn4ef.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/4fn4ef.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/930 "2022-07-12T10:05:27Z")
This is going well. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/931 "2022-07-12T14:26:16Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > > > I posted a polite inquiry, you declined to respond, and asked me to respond to a question of yours which I politely declined. > > [http://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png](http://www.mikepope.com/blog/images/sealioning.png) I also heard a sea lion bark. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/932 "2022-07-12T14:59:37Z")
This rounds out the sealion cartoon by fulfilling the final balloon. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I do have to step away for a time so please don’t think that means I’ve left, I’ll be back ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/933 "2022-07-13T04:25:40Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Is that a thing he does? Oh, I have no idea, I know absolutely nothing about Martin\_Hyde’s personal life including his alcohol consumption habits, if any. But whenever I see a Doper whose posts I have sometimes found informative or well-argued making a complete loutish spectacle of themselves in the Pit, I always hope that they’re just drunk off their ass and have no real idea what they’re even saying. I trust that they would extend the same charitable courtesy to me. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/934 "2022-07-13T04:52:43Z")
Well, I dunno. Are you a school teacher? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/935 "2022-07-13T14:53:48Z")
Nah, I’ve seen his posts for years, he strikes me as unimpressive and highly likely to have gone into teaching for the same reason most people go into a low wage job–lack of ability to do anything more important or rewarding. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/936 "2022-07-13T14:56:01Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@Kimstu](#): > > > > Or else, with any luck, he’s just drunk off his ass. > > Honestly, I think he lost his cool, realizing that he’d misjudged that thread and that it had passed him by, and petulantly lashed out. It’s possible that if he were a little calmer his insults wouldn’t be so ridiculously inept. > > (And thanks for the kind words!) I made no judgement on the thread, which had not even developed past one post when you had your little baby temper tantrum–other people chimed in and started an interesting discussion, which again–had nothing to do with your OP. I had attempted to offer you that same life raft and you got pissy about it because it was being offered by a “disliked poster”, in the meantime the other hijacks that then went on to be the meat of the thread you were fine with because you weren’t trying to stir up nonsense. My judgement was on the OP, which was not well written to promote debate (and as evidence of that, the debate that emerged does not actually relate to the “controversy” you driveled on about for 600+ meandering, ill-thought out words.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/937 "2022-07-13T14:57:59Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Nah, I’ve seen his posts for years, he strikes me as unimpressive and highly likely to have gone into teaching for the same reason most people go into a low wage job–lack of ability to do anything more important or rewarding. And with this, you prove **Kimstu** ’s assessment of you to be correct. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/938 "2022-07-13T14:58:11Z")
There’s no such thing as “sealioning” a fucking Pit Thread a bunch of idiots **with my own name in the title** , so you probably need to dig back into your big bag of stupid and inane SDMBer slurs and attacks to find one a little more apropo. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/939 "2022-07-13T14:59:17Z")
I have a lot more experience with teachers and educators than Kimstu, I would wager. It is unfortunately the case that the mythologized idea of teachers he has does not match reality. These are mostly people who couldn’t get real degrees in college and who wanted a job with summers off. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/940 "2022-07-13T15:05:38Z")
I have quite a lot of experience with teachers and educators too, including being married to one, and what you present is the mythologized idea of teachers as lazy slackers often presented by the shallow, the ignorant and the generally shitty looking for cheap excuses to denigrate them. But then “ **LHOD** is a teacher and teachers are all lazy and incompetent and therefore I have made up an excuse to handwave away their points” is exactly the sort of disingenuous argument that has earned you this lengthy Pit thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=48)