# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/941 "2022-07-13T15:09:20Z")

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Then you admit you are a biased observer of the system. As a former elected school board member I was there specifically to cut through the bullshit and oversee a system largely made up of unionized workers who want more money for less work, and who rarely have the best interests of children at heart.

The people in upper administration, the Superintendant and school principals, are usually better aligned with actually promoting educational outcomes, but the teachers are mostly lazy and indolent.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/942 "2022-07-13T15:30:20Z")

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Then you admit that you got elected to a school board to blow up the system and drive students into private schools and dare to call actual educators biased.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/943 "2022-07-13T15:31:04Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Kimstu, I would wager. It is unfortunately the case that the mythologized idea of teachers **he** has does not match reality.

_She_, I believe.

Also you suck for bringing the entire profession of teaching into disrepute.

~Max

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/944 "2022-07-13T15:34:02Z")

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It’s typical right wing hatred of public education. Any insult or denigration he can throw at it is just part of the playbook. Remember that even though he is barely self aware enough to be against Trump, he’s aligned with every other right wing agenda, including that of cruelty for cruelty’s sake.

It’s not even that his insults are creative or any way thoughtful, just knee jerk reactions and recitation of the litany he’s been taught to recite.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/945 "2022-07-13T15:34:42Z")

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If this isn’t straight up trolling, I don’t know what is.

Kudos for presenting the caricature so well, I guess

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/946 "2022-07-13T15:39:01Z")

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I don’t think “elected to school board “ is the flex you think it is.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/947 "2022-07-13T15:39:18Z")

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Either he’s a chronic alcoholic posting drunk first thing in the morning, or he really is that useless even when sober.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/948 "2022-07-13T15:42:27Z")

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What a loser you are if you really believe this. If you actually claim to have come to this conclusion through exposure to real public school teachers, yours just lying.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/949 "2022-07-13T15:44:26Z")

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To be fair, he was born fully formed, springing from the head of Minerva, already in possession of all the knowledge he would ever need in this life. He had no need of teachers, nor a need to learn anything new.

This is why he is so resentful to the idea of education, and hostile to those who facilitate such.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/950 "2022-07-13T15:54:39Z")

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I mean, his insults against me have boiled down to claiming that I’m:

1. Lazy
2. Stupid
3. A crybaby
4. A teacher

The first three are so off-base that it’s hard to feel insulted by them; he may as well accuse me of being Lithuanian, or a maple tree.

The fourth is accurate, but somehow I still don’t feel insulted.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/951 "2022-07-13T15:56:08Z")

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Don’t forget being like a woman.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/952 "2022-07-13T15:58:06Z")

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Did he accuse me of being like a woman? I work in a profession dominated by women, and I wear my hair in a long braid, so maybe he’s confused. I guess that’ll fall in the “not accurate but also not insulting” category.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/953 "2022-07-13T16:02:44Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Nah, I’ve seen his posts for years, he strikes me as unimpressive and highly likely to have gone into teaching for the same reason most people go into a low wage job–lack of ability to do anything more important or rewarding.

Care to remind the class about your real degrees and important or rewarding career in what again?

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/954 "2022-07-13T16:03:56Z")

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I went to a parochial (Catholic) elementary school and then public schools straight through university. The only crappy teachers I had were in elementary school (I had good ones, too). And that was only one, maybe two, out of eight.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/955 "2022-07-13T16:05:39Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> he strikes me as … highly likely to have gone into teaching for the same reason most people go into a low wage job–lack of ability to do anything more important or rewarding.

In his defense, yes, I _did_ go into teaching because I lack the ability to do anything more important or rewarding.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/956 "2022-07-13T16:10:41Z")

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Hah, the chickens are clucking mightily today.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/957 "2022-07-13T16:15:24Z")

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You’re certainly getting the attention you wanted

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/958 "2022-07-13T16:21:06Z")

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How many internet points do you win with your right wing friends when you show what a disgusting piece of shit you are, and get the predictable reactions of disgust?

I hope it’s lots, for as much effort as you put into it.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/959 "2022-07-13T16:55:21Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I _did_ go into teaching because I lack the ability to do anything more important or rewarding.

ISWYDT.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/960 "2022-07-13T17:04:43Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Care to remind the class about your real degrees and important or rewarding career in what again?

🦗 🦗 🦗

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