# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/961 "2022-07-13T23:41:54Z")
I went to Catholic school for K-8, 4 years at a public high school, and then except for about a year at a community college, I went to a Catholic college as well. I’d say my teachers were just as good for both. And for that matter, while they weren’t teachers, my mother was a teachers’ aid at the local elementary school, and two of my aunts were teachers’ aids at my high school. And I’ve seen the kind of work THEY had to put up with as well. **LHOD** , you and I may have had our differences, but I do admire you for what you do. **Martin Hyde** , you’re embarassing yourself. It’s cringe-worthy. ---
**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/962 "2022-07-14T00:25:17Z")
Skipped a few days, did ya? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/963 "2022-07-14T00:34:54Z")
There must be intelligent and thoughtful school board members whose primary goal is to enhance education. It’s just that in years of covering school board meetings as a reporter, I never encountered any. They generally spent their time indulging petty grudges and trying to score points on the unfortunates who were obliged to put up with them ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/964 "2022-07-14T02:41:28Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > likely to have gone into teaching for the same reason most people go into a low wage job–lack of ability to do anything more important or rewarding. Oh, bleah. Here’s still hoping that you’re just drunk off your ass, but you’re making it a lot more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/965 "2022-07-14T02:55:09Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > In his defense, yes, I _did_ go into teaching because I lack the ability to do anything more important or rewarding. Beautifully put, and well done. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/966 "2022-07-14T02:55:30Z")
It’s rude to suggest someone is drunk because they say something you disagree with. This is an internet message board, you have no evidentiary basis for assessing me or anyone else as intoxicated, so that then is just a childish ad hominem attack. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/967 "2022-07-14T02:57:45Z")
Now I’m reduced to hoping that maybe your (hypothetical) toxically bitter and angry slacker brother-in-law has just hijacked your SDMB account. Because if you were really drunk off your ass, you’d probably be making a lot more typos. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/968 "2022-07-14T03:18:52Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > It’s rude to suggest someone is drunk because they say something you disagree with. And suggesting that teaching as a vocation is neither important nor rewarding is the height of civility. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/969 "2022-07-14T08:40:47Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > hen you admit you are a biased observer of the system. As a former elected school board member I was there specifically to cut through the bullshit and oversee a system largely made up of unionized workers who want more money for less work, and who rarely have the best interests of children at heart. > > The people in upper administration, the Superintendant and school principals, are usually better aligned with actually promoting educational outcomes, but the teachers are mostly lazy and indolent. So other people’s experience makes them a “biased observer of the system” but yours makes you an impartial expert? Neat. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Hah, the chickens are clucking mightily today. “Look how everyone from the dinner party is still talking about how I dropped my pants and took a shit on the living room carpet. Winning!” > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > It’s rude to suggest someone is drunk because they say something you disagree with. This is an internet message board, you have no evidentiary basis for assessing me or anyone else as intoxicated, so that then is just a childish ad hominem attack. It’s worth noting that “drunk off your ass” was being offered as the less reprehensible explanation for your posts, the other option being that you’re genuinely a disingenuous asshole. But if you prefer the second option, we can work with that. It remain consistent with your posting style, as the above examples demonstrate. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/970 "2022-07-14T14:15:13Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I have a lot more experience with teachers and educators than Kimstu, I would wager. It is unfortunately the case that the mythologized idea of teachers he has does not match reality. These are mostly people who couldn’t get real degrees in college and who wanted a job with summers off. oh my fucking god. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > The people in upper administration, the Superintendant and school principals, are usually better aligned with actually promoting educational outcomes holy fucking shit. > [@Wolf333](#): > > I don’t think “elected to school board “ is the flex you think it is. 🤣 I actually know several people who have served as elected school committee members who really do care about the kids, but even so, that’s a very special perspective, where you are mostly looking at balancing budgets, re-building decaying buildings, and other financial and infrastructure issues, not the bread and butter of teaching children. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/971 "2022-07-14T14:22:58Z")
I’m sorry for the teachers that hurt you, Martin, apparently giving you this warped and ludicrous disdain for their profession. It happened long ago and those teachers are probably long dead. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/972 "2022-07-14T14:30:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I actually know several people who have served as elected school committee members who really do care about the kids, but even so, that’s a very special perspective, where you are mostly looking at balancing budgets, re-building decaying buildings, and other financial and infrastructure issues, not the bread and butter of teaching children. I’ve worked on the campaigns for school board members who felt this way, and it used to be a contest of ideas, where the opponent simply had a different idea of what was best for the children. The last couple of cycles, however, it’s not about differing opinions as to what is best for the children, but a pure ideological hatred of public school, and the people are trying to get elected in order to dismantle it to the best of their ability. They run on talking shit about the teachers, making them out to be untrustworthy and lazy. @Martin_Hyde’s rant could be taken straight from their campaign material. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/973 "2022-07-14T16:54:05Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m sorry for the teachers that hurt you, Martin, apparently giving you this warped and ludicrous disdain for their profession. It happened long ago and those teachers are probably long dead. I picture him being a lazy, entitled student who probably thought having to sometimes read the book was “teaching himself” and test reviews were “useless” if they didn’t have the exact questions that were going to be on the test. He feels he’s entitled to cheat on tests and plagiarize because those lazy teachers make him teach himself all this boring stuff that he doesn’t need to learn. He threw a big, baby fit every time a mean old teacher punished him for cheating. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/974 "2022-07-14T18:04:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **LHOD** , you and I may have had our differences, but I do admire you for what you do. Thank you, Guin–I really appreciate that. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/975 "2022-07-14T18:05:35Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > It’s rude to suggest someone is drunk because they say something you disagree with. You are just too much! Some people you can’t parody. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/976 "2022-07-14T19:24:51Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > It’s rude to suggest someone is drunk because they say something you disagree with. No, but it’s generous when someone is spouting nonsense to try to find a temporary reason. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/977 "2022-07-14T19:49:04Z")
Im feeling we could make a short film of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/978 "2022-07-14T19:53:35Z")
Is it rude to call you a piece of shit? Because you totally are. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/979 "2022-07-14T20:31:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m sorry for the teachers that hurt you, Martin, apparently giving you this warped and ludicrous disdain for their profession. The modern American conservative hates education. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/980 "2022-07-14T20:41:50Z")
A real education, anyway. Indoctrination and nationalism under the guise of patriotism are just fine [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=50)