# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1041 "2022-07-17T16:28:10Z")
This thread has taken some unexpected and interesting turns. Where did **Martin** run off to? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1042 "2022-07-17T16:36:33Z")
I am very curious about that myself. He logged in earlier this morning so he has certainly read the evidence presented. An 18 year Doper exposed. I am eagerly awaiting what I am sure will be a reasonable explanation for all of this. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1043 "2022-07-17T16:47:33Z")
He just posted half an hour ago in a different thread. I am sure not posting here is an oversight. > [@When would you replace your house cleaning service?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-would-you-replace-your-house-cleaning-service/967766/44): > > Same, but I actually just leave a door unlocked. I live in a very low crime area and I have a security system, when they come through the door it sets off the 60s timer for them to deactivate the alarm with a punch code (which I supply to the agency and I guess they keep on file); they have standing instructions to lock the door when they leave, which they have never failed to do. The security system stays disarmed though, which is fine–I am not super paranoid about home security. While I woul… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1044 "2022-07-17T17:02:29Z")
> [@When would you replace your house cleaning service?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-would-you-replace-your-house-cleaning-service/967766/44): > > I actually just leave a door unlocked. I live in a very low crime area At this point, I wonder if he’s posting from prison. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1045 "2022-07-17T17:10:15Z")
His mom’s basement? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1046 "2022-07-17T17:57:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > At this point, I wonder if he’s posting from prison. I don’t know… Does the 8th amendment apply when the punishment is inflicted on someone other than the prisoner? Because if so, I think we’d have a pretty good case that our rights are being violated. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1047 "2022-07-17T22:03:24Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Oh, wait, you weren’t a Captain, you were _full bird Colonel_, that’s great! Well done. Very well done indeed. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > And the fool absconds from the field of battle. A prescient quote? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1048 "2022-07-17T22:26:24Z")
> [@Inflation is not currently a menace](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inflation-is-not-currently-a-menace/955738/148): > > People are always struggling to survive financially. Right now most people in America are not struggling all that much. Unemployment is low, foreclosures are fairly low, as of June 2022 the household saving rate in America had continued a string of monthly increases. Again, people are always struggling. But looking at aggregate data we aren’t yet in a period of particularly high struggle. High prices are bad, but it appears household budgets are largely able to absorb them. There is no guarante… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1049 "2022-07-17T22:49:51Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > This entire post is impressively hyperbolic. I wish I could give you some sort of award for it. > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > That’s not even the current topic. You got pitted for threadshitting in a thread after you were told that your pet topic (affirmative action) was not the purpose of the thread. ⁢ > > Actually people are still crying about the gun control discussion. You’re good at typing up posts but you could learn to read them. > > Also no one threadshit, that was just a typical specious lie LHoD made up for his own deranged entertainment. > > Affirmative Action is also not a pet topic of mine, as any cursory review of my posting history would show. ⁢ Are you under the impression that people can’t read what you wrote? I read your reply before LHOD posted. You told LHOD that his thread was beneath you, not worthy of discussion. That’s threadshitting. And you have brought up AA many times before. It’s a common conservative gotcha card to claim that liberals are also bigoted. I also will point out that you’re clearly engaging dishonestly. Quoting a single line from a post, debunking it, then saying that somehow makes my entire post an exaggeration. You avoided all of the actual big accusations. I really am starting to think you’re just a chronically dishonest person. You think it’s okay to say whatever to win arguments. And the reason you got mad at LHOD is that he didn’t let you change the argument. Hence you had to get in those parting swipes. You’d think, if you were of decent intelligence, you’d at least not call attention to yourself. You’re directly inviting people to dig up everything on you. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1050 "2022-07-17T22:50:22Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Where did **Martin** run off to? I suspect that the gross inconsistencies exposed upthread by our resident sleuth has finished him off for good, at least in this thread. I say this not to be vindictive, but because nothing pisses me off more than posters who are liars and frauds. We take them at their word as a natural and essential part of human discourse, and when they turn out to be liars, it feels like a betrayal of trust. It also means that the veracity of everything they have ever written, or ever will write, is suspect and therefore worthless. If – to take a leap into a wild hypothetical – there were a rational explanation for these glaring inconsistencies, anyone who has expended as much effort as **Martin\_Hyde** has to try to defend himself in this thread would surely be here in a flash to provide it. The fact that he has not speaks volumes. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1051 "2022-07-17T23:05:21Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Are you under the impression that people can’t read what you wrote? It’s been established in this thread that he in fact is. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1052 "2022-07-18T01:06:07Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > He just posted half an hour ago in a different thread. I am sure not posting here is an oversight. Ehh. Or he might have wised up to the fact that he’s not EVER going to get everybody to admit that their criticisms of him are baseless, and that he’s as great a guy as he keeps telling us he is. I’ve never been Pitted (although I have read people saying some pretty mean things about me in the SnarkPit on the Giraffe boards). It would never even occur to me to show up and register my objections to their characterizations. It’s like agreeing to get on the phone with Dr. Laura Schlesinger so she can bully you on the radio. I do hope the reference is still intelligible, as horribly dated as it is. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1053 "2022-07-18T01:28:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’ve never been Pitted (although I have read people saying some pretty mean things about me in the SnarkPit on the Giraffe boards). It would never even occur to me to show up and register my objections to their characterizations. But there is a big difference between opinion-based criticism (“CairoCarol’s avatar is silly and her posts aren’t very insightful”) and accusations of dishonest posting (“CairoCarol claims to have lived in Jakarta, but her story doesn’t add up”). Yes, I’d most likely ignore the former. I would vigorously defend myself in the case of the latter, as I have represented biographical facts about me accurately and could explain/defend myself with no difficulty, and I would not like to be accused of lying. If, however, I had exaggerated/invented large parts of my story, and one or more sharp-eyed posters called me out on the inconsistencies, I might feel I had no choice but to slink away. Much of what is now being said about **Martin\_Hyde** seems to fall into the latter category. Posters can draw their own conclusions about what his future posts, or lack thereof, mean. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1054 "2022-07-18T02:26:53Z")
Actually I think if he doesn’t explain himself, no one will take him seriously again. Best to apologize and mea culpa. Though I don’t expect it. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1055 "2022-07-18T02:32:40Z")
If he’s still posting in a week, I’ll just put him right back on ignore. I would encourage others to do the same. I had already started to suspect bad faith on his part in a number of discussions, but here now I don’t think I could personally ever be confident he is posting in good faith again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1056 "2022-07-18T02:40:31Z")
I’m sure he will be. He’s clearly taking the “pretend the posts calling out my lying liar lies don’t exist and hope people forget” tactic. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1057 "2022-07-18T03:29:47Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Actually I think if he doesn’t explain himself, no one will take him seriously **again**. Bold of you to suggest that anyone has EVER taken his politicized posts seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1058 "2022-07-18T05:53:59Z")
I used to. Now, a heaping pile of salt. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1059 "2022-07-18T05:55:44Z")
This thread has taken a (hilarious) turn while I’ve been on holiday, and I love it. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer lying racist motherfucker. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I have tremendous standing, in a 500+ post thread I’ve shown nothing but honesty and integrity Ha ha. Who’s “playacting” now, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1060 "2022-07-18T08:40:34Z")
I didn’t care overly much about @Martin_Hyde and his posts one way or the other prior to these revelations. But now I’m intrigued by the schadenfreude that will come out of them. Assuming he ever returns to this thread and acknowledges that they exist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=54)