# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1161 "2022-07-19T00:11:18Z")

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Except you haven’t served, most likely. You just made that shit up. Making up military service is indeed stolen Valor.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1162 "2022-07-19T00:13:04Z")

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It’s fine to think that–again, such reputations are not meaningful here. But I did not make up that I was in the armed forces for a full-length career. I would not lie about like something like that, because just knowing the broad outline is not personally identifying–and I think that would also be a form of trolling / etc which I don’t do.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1163 "2022-07-19T00:13:10Z")

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And he got his deep knowledge of teachers’ intellectual and moral shortcomings from serving on the Gloucestershire County Council in 1969-77.

He just made up the bit about a school board in Virginia to avoid being doxxed.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1164 "2022-07-19T00:14:00Z")

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Local election histories are some of the easiest things in the world to research, and thus location and time would be obvious things to not give out accurately.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1165 "2022-07-19T00:16:42Z")

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How come I’m not on ignore? I feel insulted that you think I’m less despicable than ASL\_v2.0. I demand a higher level of disdain from you.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1166 "2022-07-19T00:17:16Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> See, this is a premise where we diverge. I don’t see any value in credibility, I post here because I am interested in topics and spirited discussion.

Read what I wrote more carefully. Discussions of any depth often draw on personal experience, as in the example I gave of the discussion here about the public school system and teachers. Your claims of personal experience in this arena are completely worthless now that you’re a known pathological liar, yet you built a whole story around them, all the while claiming pristine honesty. Why you do this is anybody’s guess, but it’s obviously at least in part to claim false credibility, and is in any case a pathology that goes far, far beyond the desire for anonymity.

Your blatant dishonesty makes you nothing more than a bot, not an authentic person one can have a discussion with. And it demonstrates utter contempt for all the other posters in this community.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1167 "2022-07-19T00:17:30Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> **embellishing your career** , etc–particularly for personal gain of any kind ( **even if just reputational “talk in a bar”** ) is stolen valor.

So you admit it.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1168 "2022-07-19T00:17:42Z")

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You haven’t hit the threshold yet, I generally ignore someone when they are not entertaining or for a few other specific reasons. FWIW I have ASL on ignore because he posted some days ago before all of this that he had me on ignore, and as routine if I know someone has me on ignore, I also put them on ignore. No reason to see posts from someone to whom you cannot respond.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1169 "2022-07-19T00:18:01Z")

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As I said, no embellishments occurred.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1170 "2022-07-19T00:20:01Z")

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So you say. Except you admit to lying about at least some of it. And we shouldn’t believe you because your own credibility is irrelevant to you.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1171 "2022-07-19T00:20:23Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Your blatant dishonesty makes you nothing more than a bot, not an authentic person one can have a discussion with. And it demonstrates utter contempt for all the other posters in this community.

1. As stated, I obscure specific, identifiable things about myself, to protect my anonymity. I do not manufacture stories or etc to troll people.

2. I do hold this community in contempt, because the community as a whole behaves contemptibly. I have been saying this openly since what, 2006? I can’t remember the first time it came up, but it was many years ago. AFAIK it’s not against any rule here to dislike the community and to comment on it, in the Pit, in a way that doesn’t derail other threads/forums.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1172 "2022-07-19T00:20:47Z")

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You’re just being modest? You’re actually an SAS commando who moonlights as the Zimbabwean Minister for Education (in secret of course)

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1173 "2022-07-19T00:21:00Z")

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Those would be great examples of embellishments.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1174 "2022-07-19T00:21:35Z")

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How could we possibly know? What you can claim is limited only by your imagination.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1175 "2022-07-19T00:22:02Z")

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That is true of every poster in this thread and on this forum.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1176 "2022-07-19T00:22:14Z")

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This would make a good musical.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1177 "2022-07-19T00:23:05Z")

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None of us claim that we make up stuff on the regular.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1178 "2022-07-19T00:23:43Z")

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I don’t make stuff up on the regular. I change dates, locations, and things that are not core to a discussion.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1179 "2022-07-19T00:27:18Z")

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Don’t be fooled into thinking I’m from Southwestern England. I only use this language to throw doxxers of the scent.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1180 "2022-07-19T00:30:33Z")

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Durp.

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