# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1201 "2022-07-19T01:18:59Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > If you guys could maybe slide some money into my kids’ 529s while you’re stealing my identity I’d appreciate it. You’ve given me even more information! Now I know that your keyboard has a 5, a 2, and a 9 on it. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1202 "2022-07-19T01:22:09Z")
Hah! He’s got at least two kids with 529s. I’ve almost zeroed in on him. But maybe he’s bluffing. Maybe he has two parents with 401ks. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1203 "2022-07-19T01:22:19Z")
Just reminders from the OTHER pit thread for M\_H > [@I Pit Martin Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/53): > > > [@I Pit Martin Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/52): > > > > He did not say that he’s only here (in that thread) to slap sheep, nor did he say that was his principal reason for beginning engagement with that thread. > > 15 years ago: > > > [@Martin Hyde, you're a fucking idiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/80): > > > > the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. > > Five hours ago: > > > [@How is genocide defined, with an emphasis on cultural genocide?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/137): > > > > at its core there are always threads like this one that remind that this is a den of groupthink lefties that get really mad and hateful if you disagree with them even in part. and my contribution to that thread > [@I Pit Martin Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/249): > > Personally, I found that he is a self admitted troll in this thread, as well as his casual disbelief in the experiences of the other posters infuriating. > > > [@To those setting off fireworks: Fuck you, you fucking FUCKS!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-those-setting-off-fireworks-fuck-you-you-fucking-fucks/945693/166): > > > > Frankly as someone who never sets off fireworks, the more nonsense complaints I see about them online and in social media, the more likely I am to buy a fuck ton of them next year and let them off for weeks out of spite. > > Whether he actually does so or not, that’s troll-thought right there. M\_H has by his own admission, hated and despised us for nearly two decades. He is a self admitted troll. He is a skilled troll in that he continues to hide behind a paper-thin mask of civility… until it slips. It’s not worth it people. Listening to him try to defend himself, or putting up with his existence because he is capable of being smart and well reasoned on some subjects is just the same as putting up with that crazy racist coworker who’s good at his job, but everyday in the break room goes into a rant about how (as a NOT random example) the greatness of the USA justifies the way Native American peoples were killed and driven from their lands. He is a blemish, and you’re picking at it, which only reinforces his desire to show us his so-called superiority. I don’t blame you, but why bother? Time for a mass ‘ignore’ from everyone and maybe he’ll go elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1204 "2022-07-19T01:36:58Z")
Or when he forgot whether he went to a federal service academy or some other school. Man, that’s some hilarious stuff **ASL\_v2.0** brought to light. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1205 "2022-07-19T01:46:08Z")
Did you really just compare people making snarky remarks about someone on Giraffe boards to outting a person for committing stolen valor? Dude, seriously. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1206 "2022-07-19T01:52:01Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Time for a mass ‘ignore’ from everyone and maybe he’ll go elsewhere. It’s a good point. Makes you wonder why he’s here in the first place, given things like this: > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I do hold this community in contempt, because the community as a whole behaves contemptibly. No, @Martin_Hyde, this community does not “behave contemptibly”. This community does, however, tend to be aggressively critical of a select few assholes who richly deserve it, of which you are a prime example. The sentiment you express here, and the bits quoted above by @ParallelLines, are tantamount to a pretty explicit admission of trolling. You admit you are here, basically, to get your jollies by posting in bad faith under an admitted veil of lies about who you really are and the things you’ve really done. Not a single thing about you is authentic. Which not only makes you no better than a bot and a useless asshole who apparently hates everyone here, but also violates the registration rules about posting false information, particularly the part about “ **We reserve the right to revoke the posting privileges of persons misrepresenting themselves on the SDMB.** ”. Those of us here who wish to retain our privacy simply do not post personal details. This is not hard to do for anyone with half a brain, but you seem to regard it as some sort of exceptional skill that is beyond you. Really? Or are you just an unprincipled inveterate liar? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1207 "2022-07-19T01:56:56Z")
> [@Mr.E](#): > > Show us evidence of you explaining this amazing technique to anyone else online, ever, at any point on any forum over the many years of your online history. Surely if you’ve employed this technique for this long you’ve at least mentioned it before, right? I mean, why not be honest about the fact you change details about your past to protect your privacy? You seem to think this is a completely reasonable thing to do so it would be bizarre if this is the first time you’ve ever mentioned it to anyone. Yes, I have mentioned it before on other forums–and I think even on this one, although not in this detail here. No, I would not link to another forum I participate in–that would give people a whole second set of posting history to delve into for attempting doxxing. > [@Mr.E](#): > > This may be a big ask, but surely it’s worth it to get these guys off your back, and it couldn’t be that difficult. Not even close–again, this is a place that literally glorifies race baiters, the mentally ill, communists etc. You’re seriously suggesting I undermine myself to an attempt to appeal to _those_ people? > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Or he could just leave the board and enter the pantheon of heroic conservative posters driven out by Lilliputian socialists. That won’t be happening. I’ll post here as long as I have posting privileges. > [@BigT](#): > > He doesn’t even need to go that far. He claimed above that he’s been called out before on this board, so surely he explained it then. > > That said, context will help us determine if it was just a convenient excuse. So he might be too worried to do that. I actually tried to search for it but it’s been long enough I couldn’t find any obvious posts. It’s also possible I misremembered, but I was fairly sure it had come up before specifically related to what year I turned 18, and someone noticed a mismatch. > [@BigT](#): > > I noticed he was typing before my post saying he lies unnecessarily when he could just say nothing. I do wish to point out to @Martin_Hyde that I didn’t mean shutting up now would work out well. It clearly didn’t. You probably need to relax if you’re living and dying based on the typing indicator icons. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > He is a self admitted troll. I am not a troll. > [@wolfpup](#): > > You admit you are here, basically, to get your jollies by posting in bad faith under an admitted veil of lies about who you really are and the things you’ve really done. Not a single thing about you is authentic. I only obscure specific, identifiable information about myself. Is there a requirement that everyone validate every personal detail they post on this forum? Do you actually think that’s a reasonable hill to die on? > [@wolfpup](#): > > “ **We reserve the right to revoke the posting privileges of persons misrepresenting themselves on the SDMB.** ”. If they want to revoke my posting privileges then so be it. My argument is that obscuring personally identifiable information is not “misrepresenting myself.” It is simply changing minor, identifiable details in otherwise materially accurate anecdotes. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1208 "2022-07-19T01:58:11Z")
Isn’t this banning type of behavior? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1209 "2022-07-19T02:03:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Did you really just compare people making snarky remarks about someone on Giraffe boards to outting a person for committing stolen valor? Dude, seriously. > > 🤨 I didn’t _think_ I was doing that. I thought I was just making the point that participating in one’s own Pitting is a no-win activity (once one has taken conceding the point and apologizing off the table). I’d say it was just MHO, but since it’s a non-debatable fact, that would feel counter to my peculiar _modus operandi_. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1210 "2022-07-19T02:03:56Z")
That’s because the sort of people who participate in Pit threads are the sort of people who happily joined into lynch mobs. It’s the exact same mentality. The Pit is a good place to see the moral depravity of this board on prime display. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1211 "2022-07-19T02:05:34Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > My argument is that obscuring personally identifiable information is not “misrepresenting myself.” It is simply changing minor, identifiable details in otherwise materially accurate anecdotes. It’s abundantly clear from the many examples cited above that a great many of these lies are by no means “minor” (nor do they concern “identifiable details”). Many of these lies have been blatant misrepresentations of who you are and what your qualifications are, such as being a colonel in the US Army or being an elected member of a school board. Were you any of these things? Were you only a Captain in the army? Were you ever in the military at all? Elected to anything, ever? All we know is that you admit to being a long-time inveterate liar. Nothing you say can be trusted. This makes your value as a poster here pretty much zero. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1212 "2022-07-19T02:05:36Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > The Pit is a good place to see the moral depravity of this board on prime display. Nice of you to bring enough moral depravity for everyone, you lying, psychopath. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1213 "2022-07-19T02:06:31Z")
I have already stated–I have made no material misrepresentations. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1214 "2022-07-19T02:07:22Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > My argument is that obscuring personally identifiable information is not “misrepresenting myself.” It is simply changing minor, identifiable details in otherwise materially accurate anecdotes. I think perhaps what you’re not grasping is the fact that while this seems reasonable to you, no one else can tell which details are altered and which are true. No one else has reason to believe you limit yourself to only minor details and not entire anecdotes, especially after admitting you find it easier to lie than take any other action to protect yourself. This explanation only makes you look worse. Also, your inability/unwillingness to provide any prior evidence for this “technique” makes you seem a lot less like a person invested in their long term safety and a lot more like a pathological liar caught out in their lies. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1215 "2022-07-19T02:07:27Z")
And you decide what is material, PFC Hyde? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1216 "2022-07-19T02:08:11Z")
Put up or shut up, troll. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1217 "2022-07-19T02:09:54Z")
That’s only if you ascribe some importance to the credibility of biographical details of an anonymous person, which are not salient to typical discussion threads in their _specific_ form. > [@Mr.E](#): > > Also, your inability/unwillingness to provide any prior evidence for this “technique” makes you seem a lot less like a person invested in their long term safety and a lot more like a pathological liar caught out in their lies. “Yes, please help us doxx you to prove you take efforts to prevent doxxing on other forums.” Please. > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > And you decide what is material, PFC Hyde? That’s true of every poster. Everyone is posting some form of themselves into text, but it isn’t going to be 1:1 to reality. Knowing which year I was born, or what year I graduated High School, what State I live in, or highly specific details about my professional career, are not material to any discussions I have here. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1218 "2022-07-19T02:09:57Z")
Have some respect for your senior officer! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1219 "2022-07-19T02:11:26Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > the sort of people who participate in Pit threads are the sort of people who happily joined into lynch mobs. Speaking of race baiting… ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1220 "2022-07-19T02:15:03Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Everyone is posting some form of themselves into text, but it isn’t going to be 1:1 to reality. Really? Everything I have posted about my biographical details, wisely or unwisely, are true to the best of my recollection. And I don’t mean that I might have forgotten that I’ve made up stuff dozens of times. I mean that I may have misremembered some details of anecdotes from 20-30-40-50 years ago. Like a normal person would. Not an egotistical liar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=62)