# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1241 "2022-07-19T05:44:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Is this another of those situations where somebody seems to have made some progress in overcoming reactionary views but then relapses right back into them as soon as they feel provoked about something? Don’t be ridiculous. Clearly MH is obfuscating his true position on trans men and women because if he sticks to a single position (even to a single spot on the transphobic scale) we might use that information to doxx him! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1242 "2022-07-19T05:57:01Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > we might use that information to doxx him Or [doxy](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doxy) him… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1243 "2022-07-19T06:20:03Z")
They are. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1244 "2022-07-19T06:37:54Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Martin\_Hyde in a recent post spontaneously volunteered the statement that he considers the SDMB “a place that literally glorifies […] the mentally ill”. Nobody “pushed” him to say that. > > I don’t understand what he means by that statement, unless it’s a deliberate reassertion of his formerly, and repeatedly, stated positions about homosexuality and transgender identity being mental illnesses. He has also written that “The SDMB has a lot of mentally ill / low intelligence / senile posters, and that is mostly what you see in threads like this” and “I don’t post here because I care about how my anonymous internet handle is perceived by a bunch of mentally ill socialists and degenerates.” You can interpret that as him calling us all homosexuals and transgender, _or_, he’s just using mental illness as a lazy insult for the people pitting him. The implication being that only a mentally ill person would pit him. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1245 "2022-07-19T06:41:44Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > You can interpret that as him calling us all homosexuals and transgender, _or_, he’s just using mental illness as a lazy insult for the people pitting him. [![](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amBQ8X4_460s.jpg) ](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amBQ8X4_460s.jpg) And that’s leaving aside the even less ambiguous “degenerates” But more importantly…_why the fuck do you feel he needs you to carry his water for him_? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1246 "2022-07-19T06:47:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > But more importantly… I saw something I thought was unfair, so I said so. Surely you recognize that urge? ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1247 "2022-07-19T06:52:51Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > I saw something I thought was unfair Oooh, someone puts the worst spin on the vomitous spew posted by a lying racist trans- and homo-phobe… _so_ unfair. Fuck off. > [@Max\_S](#): > > Surely you recognize that urge? To stand up for racist omniphobes who publicly delight in the death of kids? Naah. Not a fault of mine. I mean, I [understand](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074) why _you_ would stan the guy, trolls love trolls and all, but that’s not actually a concern about fairness. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1248 "2022-07-19T06:57:50Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > stan Another new word. This _has_ been a learning experience. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1249 "2022-07-19T07:01:17Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Another new word. This _has_ been a learning experience. > [@Pitting Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/192): > > Racist motherfucker thinks he’s funny. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1250 "2022-07-19T08:46:59Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > That’s because the sort of people who participate in Pit threads are the sort of people who happily joined into lynch mobs. It’s the exact same mentality. The Pit is a good place to see the moral depravity of this board on prime display. Ah, the standard “Everyone keeps calling me a disingenuous asshole, and since the options are either that everyone is part of a hivemind lynch mob or that everyone is stating the obvious and I really _am_ a disingenuous asshole, it must be the first option” argument. Always a favorite of disingenuous assholes. > [@Kimstu](#): > > But in what way are you suggesting that the SDMB “glorifies” “the mentally ill”? Well, we’ve given one of them their own 1200+ post Pit thread, for starters. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1251 "2022-07-19T10:20:03Z")
Boy, you call a guy a fucking piece if shit a few times and he puts you on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1252 "2022-07-19T11:06:53Z")
Oh dear, it seems Max has had a relapse. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1253 "2022-07-19T13:48:26Z")
**Martin Hyde** has been BANNED, announcement will be coming in the ATMB later today. I’ll put a place holder there for later. * * * This thread will eventually be closed, but I leave that to @Miller to decide when. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1254 "2022-07-19T14:02:38Z")
The wheels of justice grind slowly, but what a fine sausage they make indeed. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1255 "2022-07-19T14:06:35Z")
To be honest, 3 days is fairly fast for a long time poster. The offense in this case was pretty blatant. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1256 "2022-07-19T14:10:59Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > To be honest, 3 days is fairly fast for a long time poster. The offense in this case was pretty blatant.   Board moderation acted as swiftly as it could and is very much appreciated that it did. But it was clear to many of us a long time ago that this poster was a net negative to the board–and that’s justly not a bannable offense. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1257 "2022-07-19T14:15:53Z")
You did him a favor, seems like. I’ve never for the life of me understood why some people deliberately choose to associate themselves with an institution or a society that they consider morally contemptible or beneath them. If I thought the SDMB was morally or cognitively not good enough for me, and was mostly representing “contemptible” positions advocated by people I despised, I wouldn’t hang out here. Of course we all have to interact sometimes with individuals or institutions that we consider ourselves too good for, but for whatever reason can’t totally sever our ties with. But recreational participation in anonymous messageboard discussions is practically the definition of “voluntary association”. Why would anybody put in a sizeable proportion of twenty-plus years of their one precious life voluntarily associating with a group of people whom, in the aggregate, they despise? I don’t understand it, but quite a few conservatives seem to have that mentality. For some reason they enjoy the feeling of moral superiority produced by consorting with those they consider their moral inferiors? So like I said, you could argue that it’s really doing them a favor when the despised institution reciprocates their contempt and steps up to do the ties-severing on its own behalf. What actually made me kind of sad when I was looking through those old posts I quoted was the realization that for years the SDMB was enabling such a hostile environment for valued posters like Johanna and Una\_Persson, so that posters like Martin\_Hyde could indulge their “freedom of speech”. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1258 "2022-07-19T14:17:51Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > The wheels of justice grind slowly, but what a fine sausage they make indeed. I haven’t been following this - any chance of a quick synopsis of what happened? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1259 "2022-07-19T14:22:08Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Martin Hyde** has been BANNED, announcement will be coming in the ATMB later today. I’ll put a place holder there for later. Thanks. What a freakin’ tool he was. Hopefully he can find a community where he doesn’t hold everyone in contempt; but the problem will be that whichever community he lands in, he and his issues are gonna be there. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/1260 "2022-07-19T14:22:09Z")
See announcement. Quick summary is years of lies and misrepresentations about themselves finally hits the proverbial fan. > [@Martin\_Hyde has been banned for violation of the Registration Agreement](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-has-been-banned-for-violation-of-the-registration-agreement/968203): > > As the SDMB reserves the right to revoke the posting privileges of persons misrepresenting themselves on the SDMB, Martin Hyde is banned. More to come later in the day … \*Note the exposure of his lies start here: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045.md?page=64)