# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED}

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/402 "2022-05-27T03:13:56Z")

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Here’s **Puzzlegal** from earlier in this thread saying she thinks target shooting shouldn’t exist (bolding mine):

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> First, if i could wave a wand and make all the guns in the US be as if they never were, I’d do it. Then we’d need to find solutions for farmers with vermin, and for a number of reasons, I’d like to support gun hunters, too. ( **There are plenty of existing alternatives to target shooting, IMHO**.)

And here she is again not understanding, or apparently even considering, that shooting targets might be a rewarding, satisfying, accomplishing and completely benign use of firearms:

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> What are the benign ways that people use guns? Killing vermin and game? The sensation (true or not) that you can fight back if someone aggresses against you? Feeling power under your fingers?

And here’s a post from someone in the [Political Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/186) saying that the only allowable shotguns should be break-action, and people should be limited to 12 rounds:

> [@Uvalde, Texas school shooting - the political thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/186):
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> My gun control proposals
> 
> The following guns are allowed, subject to background checks
> 
> Revolvers  
> Shotguns, break action  
> Rifles , bolt action, small magazine
> 
> Guns must always be unloaded and securely bagged -except in the following places.
> 
> Your own property  
> Anothers property , with owners permission  
> A licenced shooting range  
> A designated hunting area
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> Maximum ammunition allowances  
> 12 rounds per gun type
> 
> (Exception: licenced shooting facilities)
> 
> This seems to me to cover all legiitimate self defence, vermin control and sporting cases for gun ownership.

You can argue that taking something someone has said in a different thread on more or less the same topic, which is running concurrently with this one, might be “nitpicking”, but I would disagree with that interpretation.

And here’s a poster in the now-locked thread about how many [mass shootings it would take to change gun supporter’s mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-x-amount-of-mass-shootings-that-would-change-gun-supporters-minds-or-is-that-the-wrong-way-to-think/964380/46)s saying that a single-shot rifle is all anyone needs for hunting or many other purposes:

> [@Is there X amount of mass shootings that would change gun supporters' minds, or is that the wrong way to think?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-x-amount-of-mass-shootings-that-would-change-gun-supporters-minds-or-is-that-the-wrong-way-to-think/964380/46):
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> Isn’t hunting a bit of a red herring? If you’re hunting to put food on the table a single shot hunting rifle is adequate. There could be, for example, legislation that prohibits ownership of large magazine semi-automatic rifles while permitting the ownership of hunting weapons. Can you still kill lots of people with a single shot rifle? Yes, but it’s not as easy.

The point is, the arguments I referred to (with some hyperbole) aren’t things I just made up out of thin air; they’re real viewpoints people have expressed here on the SDMB within the past week or so and - if we’re honest with ourselves - they’re arguments/viewpoints we’ve all seen many times elsewhere on the internet too.

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