# Pit thread for Martin\_Hyde {He has been BANNED}

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045 "2022-05-24T22:52:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-thread-for-martin-hyde-he-has-been-banned/965045/826 "2022-06-01T23:43:51Z")

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Folks, don’t misconstrue **Martin\_Hyde**. It won’t take unlimited deaths of children. He guessed it would take at least 4-5x more mass shooting deaths than we have now, or however much that mass shootings cause the majority of homicides.

> [@Is there X amount of mass shootings that would change gun supporters' minds, or is that the wrong way to think?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-x-amount-of-mass-shootings-that-would-change-gun-supporters-minds-or-is-that-the-wrong-way-to-think/964380/313):
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> **I guess** if we want to restrict to that–a number **probably 4-5x higher than we have now, maybe even more so** – **at the very least mass shootings would need to represent responsibility for a majority of homicide deaths in America, and even then, it will likely have to be much, much higher**. The reason being at core, we simply don’t associate those illegal gun uses with our legal gun use, but there is probably some very high level of death that would carve off enough casual gun owners and convince them to try gun restrictionism (which I think would likely be meaningless at addressing the problem.)

~Max

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