# Pit you Donald Trump for suing Miss Penn. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285 "2012-06-06T16:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/21 "2012-06-07T19:58:08Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Well, it’s a bit late for _that_. True. But he can still add a park or something. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/22 "2012-06-07T20:03:53Z")
I don’t believe any of the contestants are from the USA. Has anyone seen any of the birth certificates? The originals? The long form ones? I don’t like this one bit. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/23 "2012-06-07T20:16:12Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Donald Trump loves to claim he’s going to sue people. Rosie O’Donnell was one. The alternative is missing a chance to be on TV. > > Trump bewilders me. He’s 65 and he has plenty of money, you’d think he’d want to give some thought to not leaving an incredibly tacky embarrassing legacy. His buildings, most of which he doesn’t own (just manages), will likely trade hands a dozen times and be torn down to build new eyesores within a generation of his death, and he’s already laughed at more than respected, you’d think he’d want to spend what time he has left developing some kind of give back: Trump Park, Trump University, something like that, but instead he just descends forever further into the realm of eye-rolling punchline. > > Of course that would imply he really is a billionaire and has billionaire money. I think the general consensus is that he’s not a billionaire at all- he’s worth in the low 9 figures and the rest is on paper but corporately bound. You are confusing him with someone who has at least some class. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/24 "2012-06-07T20:54:55Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > How do we even know she is from Pennsylvania at all? And her answers to questions during the pageant seemed vague at best. Bravo, sir or madam. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/25 "2012-06-07T21:17:18Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > How do we even know she is from Pennsylvania at all? And her answers to questions during the pageant seemed vague at best. The whole geography thing is vague [because, uh, some, uh. . . people out there in our nation don’t have maps…](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caitlin_Upton). ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/26 "2012-06-08T05:03:09Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > A subjectively judged contest may be rigged? I’m shocked, shocked I say! Your tiara sir. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/27 "2012-06-08T06:50:38Z")
Is this thing entirely a metaphor, or was there some actual pageant accusations going on in real life too? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/28 "2012-06-08T09:16:51Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Is this thing entirely a metaphor, or was there some actual pageant accusations going on in real life too? [Metaphor imitates life, life imitates surrealism.](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/06/06/miss-pennsylvania-resigns-claims-miss-usa-pageant-was-rigged/) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/29 "2012-06-08T09:21:48Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > …you’d think he’d want to spend what time he has left developing some kind of give back: Trump Park, Trump University,… We’re more likely to see Trump Cola. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/30 "2012-06-08T17:02:39Z")
You know, while I’m normally all HIP, HIP, HOORAY!!! about anyone calling out Trump for being the fraud he is, Miss Penn isn’t exactly working with a full set of crayons either. Now, if the woman dropped out because she thought the pageant was fixed or immoral or whatever else, I’d fully respect and understand that. . . but that’s not what she did. Miss Pennsylvania dropped out of the pageant because the Trump organization relented and changed their ruling on allowing trans folks to participate. Now,[she’s _claiming_ she dropped out due to all of the faking bruhaha, but pageant officials released an email resignation from her that came days before her public resignation,](http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47696589/ns/today-style/t/miss-usa-contestant-resigns-says-pageant-was-fixed/#.T9Iu9NU7Uuc) which stated (in part): > [@](#): > > “I refuse to be part of a pageant system that has so far and so completely removed itself from its foundational principles as to allow and support natural born males to compete in it. This goes against ever (sic) moral fiber of my being.” So, in the end: fuck 'em both. The bigot and the even bigger bigot can spend a bunch of resources suing each other about some stupid pageant, which will hopefully stop their ignorant selves from bothering any decent people. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/31 "2012-06-08T18:37:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I, for one, have no problem with the Pennsylvania State Attorney demanding physical evidence showing the contest was not rigged. How do you prove that a contest was not rigged? If I’m going to rig a pageant, I’m going to fill in some score sheets. And, as another poster said, it’s all subjective anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/32 "2012-06-08T21:04:33Z")
> [@](#): > > I refuse to be part of a pageant system that has so far and so completely removed itself from its foundational principles as to allow and support natural born males to compete in it. Wait…so this thread really is about birth certificates? I think we’re experiencing total metaphor collapse here. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/33 "2012-06-09T04:58:14Z")
“Foundational principles”?! Bwahahaha! She’s funny. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/34 "2012-06-09T05:07:20Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > “Foundational principles”?! > > Bwahahaha! > > She’s funny. Hey, she didn’t enter a rocket science competition. . .:p;) ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285/35 "2012-06-09T08:31:42Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > How do you prove that a contest was not rigged? If I’m going to rig a pageant, I’m going to fill in some score sheets. And, as another poster said, it’s all subjective anyways. Hmm… I think it was a joke. As in he would like to check by himself the relative sex-appeal of the contestants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pit-you-donald-trump-for-suing-miss-penn/624285.md?page=1)