# Pitcher beans osprey. Dave Winfield and Randy Johnson unavailable for comment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 24, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789 "2003-04-24T04:54:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DaToad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DaToad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaToad)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/21 "2003-04-24T18:28:47Z")
I’m sure that he will be prosecuted and pay the price for his mean and thoughtless deed. Although the news article stated that bird is expected to survive, I wonder. IANA ornithologist or ophthatmologist, but I think that a partially blind osprey might have a difficult time catching fish. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/22 "2003-04-24T18:40:31Z")
So Cosmo Fishhawk is an _osprey_? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/23 "2003-04-24T19:24:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > \*\*I thought Vince was with the Mets when he did that. As a Red Sox fan, I always feel a warm wave of schadenfreude whenever the Mets are in the news for something negative. \*\* Funny, as a Yankees fan, I always feel a warm wave of schadenfreude whenever the Red Sox are in the news for something negative. ---
**Author:** ![Phelan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Phelan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phelan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/24 "2003-04-24T19:47:35Z")
Looks like he will be charged, [http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-215650020030424-130433.html](http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-215650020030424-130433.html) and demoted. [http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-215542520030424-070418.html](http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-215542520030424-070418.html) Good! ---
**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/25 "2003-04-24T22:42:52Z")
What isn’t mentioned is what his teammates were doing at the time. This guy threw several balls at the osprey before hitting it. Did no one tell him to _stop_? Were people egging him on, or just standing around laughing like a bunch of slack-jawed locals? Seems like there must have been even more asshatery going on at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/26 "2003-04-24T22:50:09Z")
> [@](#): > > This clown apparently thought it would be a good idea to keep chucking baseballs at an osprey until he clobbered it. This guy calls himself a pitcher, and he can’t even hit a big fucking bird on the first try? Man, that’s sad. Though not as pathetic as doing it in the first place… ---
**Author:** ![Phelan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Phelan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phelan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/27 "2003-04-24T22:58:18Z")
It doesn’t say what his teamates were doing before the incident, but it does say that they rushed to “assist” the bird after it fell. Hopefylly he was called an idiot by one of them. I wonder what Ryu’s defence will be? ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/28 "2003-04-25T02:28:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Funny, as a Yankees fan, I always feel a warm wave of schadenfreude whenever the Red Sox are in the news for something negative. \*\* Such as another season starting? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![brad\_d](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@brad\_d](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brad_d)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/29 "2003-04-25T04:03:25Z")
It’s not immediately clear to me that being transferred from one Class A team to another really counts as a “demotion”, but as I’m not intimately familiar with the Cubs’ minor league structure there may be more to it. (Where can you go below single-A, anyway?) It sounds to me a bit like a “Get this guy out of town - somewhere, anywhere,” move. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/30 "2003-04-25T06:59:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Myrr21 \* > \*\*This guy calls himself a pitcher, and he can’t even hit a big fucking bird on the first try? Man, that’s sad. Though not as pathetic as doing it in the first place… \*\* Not only that, but when he does manage to connect, he doesn’t even kill the bird? And this guy wants to be a major league pitcher?? Better work on that arm, buddy. So was the bird allowed to take first base? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/31 "2003-04-25T10:19:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Phelan \* > \*\* > > I wonder what Ryu’s defence will be? \*\* well, He kind of puts his arm across his face to protect from punches and kicks, but its not very effective against tiger uppercuts or fireballs. ok, enough of the Street Fighter hijacks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/32 "2003-04-25T12:32:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by brad\_d \* > \*\*It’s not immediately clear to me that being transferred from one Class A team to another really counts as a “demotion”, but as I’m not intimately familiar with the Cubs’ minor league structure there may be more to it. (Where can you go below single-A, anyway?) > > It sounds to me a bit like a “Get this guy out of town - somewhere, anywhere,” move. \*\* The Florida State League (where Daytona plays) is ‘High-A’ ball. The Midwest League (where he’s going the “Lansing Lugnuts”, I think) is ‘Low-A’ ball. There’s also rookie ball and short season ball below that. But there’s age and experience limitations on playing in those leagues. So it’s a demotion, but not a huge one. They’re basically getting him out of town. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/33 "2003-04-25T19:42:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fingolfin \* > I hope they throw the book at that jerk! I can’t think of what drives a person to do such a thing. It’s just pointless, random, cruel violence. Unless you are talking about a paperback. 😃 Sua ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/34 "2003-04-26T00:35:17Z")
An update, folks: [Florida is laying the smackdown on Ryu](http://espn.go.com/minorlbb/news/2003/0425/1544757.html) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/35 "2003-04-26T05:09:34Z")
[There was a game at Shea Stadium](http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=4027) where a pigeon was hit by a batted ball over left field. That, like Randy Johnson’s hit-bird - were total freakish accidents. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/36 "2003-04-26T07:20:54Z")
> [@](#): > > “He was remorseful,” said Buck Rogers, general manager of the Daytona Cubs. “He knew he screwed up.” OK, this pisses me off. Remorseful, my ass!!! He’s cowering because he got caught and folks are pissed at him. I’m sure he knows now that this can draw the ire of the populace, but that still doesn’t count as remorse. ‘Sorry that you did it’ does not equal ‘sorry that you must now face consequences’! ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789/37 "2003-04-26T16:22:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Funny, as a Yankees fan, I always feel a warm wave of schadenfreude whenever the Red Sox are in the news for something negative. \*\* That’s weird, as an Orioles fan… Oh, forget it! 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitcher-beans-osprey-dave-winfield-and-randy-johnson-unavailable-for-comment/170789.md?page=1)