# Pitter patter of little feet in Gotham City...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 23, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541 "2006-03-23T03:38:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/1 "2006-03-23T03:38:19Z")

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For those not in the know, as of the recent Catwoman #53…

Selina Kyle has given birth to a baby girl named Helena. Batman drops by to give her a teddy bear, but no confirmation as to whether he’s the dad or not. Cute kid, though.

And the issue was written by Will **Pfeifer** , which amuses me greatly for some reason.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/2 "2006-03-23T04:40:22Z")

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Gah! So does this mean that they’re planning on reviving a future Huntress-as-Batman’s-daughter situation? Helena Wayne was the Huntress on Earth-2 before the Crisis, when she was suddenly Helena Bertinelli, a mob boss’s daughter on Earth-period (a retcon I never subscribed to).

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/3 "2006-03-23T04:41:26Z")

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Aaaand I just realized I despoilered your spoiler…

Reporting to mods to fix…

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/4 "2006-03-23T04:47:11Z")

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Helena Bertinelli

Is still around, and still the Huntress. So if they’re going that route with baby Helena, it’ll be a “possible future” thing. Or at least a little bit down the line. Who’s the new Catwoman, btw?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/5 "2006-03-23T04:51:34Z")

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> Last edited by SkipMagic : Today at 11:47 PM. Reason: Added spoiler tag. 'Cause jayjay begged and begged and…

Admit it. You love me on my knees… 😃

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/6 "2006-03-23T05:06:03Z")

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Y’know, I think Bats & co. might be taking the wrong approach to fixing the population loss problem caused by those supervillains he won’t kill. :smack:

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**Author:** ![First\_Amongst\_Daves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4491bb/32.png) [@First\_Amongst\_Daves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/First_Amongst_Daves)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/7 "2006-03-23T12:30:35Z")

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How Earth 2 of them.

Is Son of the Demon, with Talia’s son by Bats, still retconned out of existence?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/8 "2006-03-23T14:29:27Z")

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You folks are welcome in the Comic Book Discussion Thread, just sayin’…

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**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/9 "2006-03-23T15:11:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Menocchio]  
Helena Bertinelli

Is still around, and still the Huntress. So if they’re going that route with baby Helena, it’ll be a “possible future” thing. Or at least a little bit down the line. Who’s the new Catwoman, btw?

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The new Catwoman is Selina’s friend Holly Robinson.

**First Amongst Daves** , I understand that the Batbooks writers are planning to address Ibn (Bruce’s son by Talia) in upcoming books, so stay tuned!

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/10 "2006-03-23T17:44:33Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
You folks are welcome in the Comic Book Discussion Thread, just sayin’..  
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Or they can have their own discussion here. It can be two things.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/11 "2006-03-23T17:54:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Mississippienne]  
the Batbooks writers are planning to address Ibn (Bruce’s son by Talia) in upcoming books, so stay tuned!  
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Ibn?

“What’d you name your son?”

“Son!”

I find it hard to believe that Ras al-Ghul’s daughter couldn’t pick a real name for her child…

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/12 "2006-03-23T18:10:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Push You Down]  
Or they can have their own discussion here. It can be two things.  
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I merely offered, in case they weren’t aware. Snippiness not required.

Ibn = Ibn Al-Xuffasch, “Son of the Bat”.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/13 "2006-03-23T18:10:11Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Ibn?  
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His name is Ibn al Xu’ffasch - Son of the Bat.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/14 "2006-03-23T20:10:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Tengu]  
His name is Ibn al Xu’ffasch - Son of the Bat.  
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Ah, that’s better. I’m only peripherally involved in comics at the moment, so I’m not up on everything that’s going on (or has gone on in quite a while). We’ve been buying trade format minis, though, and I’m catching up on some things.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/15 "2006-03-23T21:12:12Z")

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[QUOTE=CandidGamera]  
I merely offered, in case they weren’t aware. Snippiness not required.

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Eh. Yours was just as snippy as mine.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/16 "2006-03-23T21:15:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Push You Down]  
Eh. Yours was just as snippy as mine.  
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No, it wasn’t. He just mentioned that if people wanted to talk about comics, they were welcome in the weekly comic thread. I mentioned Helena’s possible paternity in that thread just this morning. It was a friendly wave that you smacked down.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/17 "2006-03-23T22:47:24Z")

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Oh that’s bull… You can’t tell tone through typing.

His comment can easily be read as snotty  
"You folks are welcome in the Comic Book Discussion Thread, just sayin’.

All I said was “Or they can talk about it here in its own thread.”

End the hijack please.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/18 "2006-03-23T23:02:18Z")

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No one’s yet crossed the line, so let’s kill the snippiness accusations and get back to the OP, please.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/19 "2006-03-24T00:29:53Z")

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Damn, **Skip** got here first and handled it nicely. I was all prepared with a bucket of ice cold water. So, cut out the [ahem] cattiness.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitter-patter-of-little-feet-in-gotham-city/349541/20 "2006-03-24T00:53:39Z")

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Whoa. I may have to give in and start buying comics.  
Just whoa.

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