# Pitting aceplace57 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183 "2022-03-16T14:14:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/21 "2022-03-18T12:41:38Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > the flipside is people don’t have to flounce on your command or give your opinion any special weight over their own. _Neither_ of which is a thing I’ve said, so, yeah… ETA fuck off isn’t a command to flounce, it could just as easily be “fuck you”. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I’m saying you’re acting like an asshole I’ll give your unasked-for tone policing of my Brown ass ranting at a motherfucking racist all the weight it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/22 "2022-03-18T15:14:04Z")
Is Acey too stupid to form his own opinions? Is the guy so obtuse he can’t differentiate between some ingrained, cultural norms and his own beliefs? Come on, now. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/23 "2022-03-18T20:18:48Z")
There are lots of people in this world who just don’t question the beliefs and value systems they were were raised with, in spite of all their exposure to more reasonable stuff. They are more interested in comfort than in the (possibly uncomfortable) truth. To be clear, this is not an excuse for anything. Anyone who doesn’t, and who doesn’t want to, think for themselves, is scarcely human in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/24 "2022-03-18T22:32:04Z")
I participated in the old Pit thread, and I agree that it is somewhat ambiguous how many of his offensive gaffes are due to stupidity, and how many are due to maliciousness. And I’m also not certain how much it matters. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/25 "2022-03-19T00:39:20Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Nah, won’t do that. > > In the words of the Dude, not saying you’re wrong - I’m saying you’re acting like an asshole. Give your opinion all you want but the flipside is people don’t have to flounce on your command or give your opinion any special weight over their own. He literally says the same shit you did, that whether someone is racist due stupidity or malice is “a distinction without a difference.” You even used the same fucking words. Yet, for some reason, when the black guy says it, he’s an asshole. So, um, psst. Your racism is showing. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/26 "2022-03-19T00:48:24Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yet, for some reason, when the black guy says it, he’s an asshole. > > So, um, psst. Your racism is showing. Dibble is black? Ok. Knew he was South African at least but whatever ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/27 "2022-03-19T00:49:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yet, for some reason, when the black guy says it, he’s an asshole. I believe MrDibble is [Coloured](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloureds), not Black, in South African terminology. (Not that a racist is likely to care, I admit.) ETA: Not saying **you** are racist. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/28 "2022-03-19T01:31:11Z")
I get what you’re saying, but I think people who are acting from ignorance usually get more flack if they’re willing to learn and educate themselves. Plenty of people are raised by total bigoted fuckwads, but they end up changing, going out and questioning what they were taught. It’s like, “wait a minute, this isn’t right.” **Ace**? He doesn’t seem to do that. If anything, he prefers to wallow in his ignorance and stupidity. Just look at his past postings here. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/29 "2022-03-19T01:35:20Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Can we get an anti-topic ban where he is limited to discussing only one thing? That. Mods: please limit **Ace** to guitar-specific threads only. He should be ok with that. 👍 ✅ ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/30 "2022-03-19T13:05:50Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Plenty of people are raised by total bigoted fuckwads, but they end up changing, going out and questioning what they were taught. It’s like, “wait a minute, this isn’t right.” If I meet a teenage racist, then I have significant hopes of them overcoming their upbringing. As they get into their late 20’s, that hope dwindles rapidly. If someone is in their 40’s or later, that’s pretty much who they are, and while it is _possible_ for them to change, it’s pretty unlikely, IME. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/31 "2022-03-19T22:38:20Z")
Sadly, very true. **Ace** is definitely of the latter, although I don’t know if it has anything to do with age, or intellect. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/32 "2022-03-29T20:32:57Z")
I got flagged for calling Acey out for sounding like a Putin sympathizer. I’m frustrated with his inane posting in the Ukraine thread. What is his major malfunction? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/33 "2022-03-29T20:34:31Z")
Ooh, link, please? You can break the link, so it doesn’t connect here. He’s a doddering old fool or something, is my thought. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/34 "2022-03-29T20:37:18Z")
This was my post, it is actually in response to a lot of his posts and not just the one: > [@Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine/960037/3634): > > Could you please work on sounding less like a Putin supporter in these threads. It is disturbing to say the least. I thought it was mild enough to be allowed, I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/35 "2022-03-29T20:44:51Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I got flagged for calling Acey out for sounding like a Putin sympathizer. I agree it’s a fine line. Acey was indeed looking like an advocate for Putin, which seems to be skirting the line of making the thread political. But your calling him out on it also looks political, especially as he’s not extremely blatant. It’s sort of a no-win thing. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > What is his major malfunction? Since this is a Pit, I feel no qualms in saying that it’s because he’s either a dumbass, or doing a very credible job of impersonating one. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/36 "2022-03-29T21:20:26Z")
We can play: troll or dumbass? He comes running in here spitting out Faux News takes and then pretends he knew all along they were bad takes. I lean towards dumbass. I think he tends to believe the last thing that someone has told him. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/37 "2022-03-29T21:41:53Z")
In the recent thread - [https://boards](https://boards). [straightdope.com/t/taylor-hawkins-dead-at-50/961737/54](http://straightdope.com/t/taylor-hawkins-dead-at-50/961737/54) (link broken, but you can take the space out obviously) **Aceplace57** came out as more terminally dense than trollish. And, for the record, after many, many posters pointed out that he’d been jerkish in his assumptions, he seemed to acknowledge that yeah, he had gone a step too far. Post 54 above was a pretty solid apology. So I’d describe said poster as quick to judge, argumentative ( and far too fond of using their own definitions which is often trollish), but not beyond redemption. Buuuuut (and it’s big), this is in a non-political, non-racially charged subject - where based on comments from other posters upthread, they seem to be able to keep their act together better. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/38 "2022-03-29T22:13:55Z")
[He often apologizes,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-article-about-questions-received-while-giving-tours-of-southern-plantations/723842/118) proclaims that he has learned something, and promises to do better next time. And then next thread, it’s the exact same act. I’ll hold off on the praise for his heartfelt apology. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/39 "2022-03-29T22:16:03Z")
Whatever he is, he is tiresome way too often. In the Ukraine threads it is hard to just ignore his usual level of aceplaceness. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183/40 "2022-03-29T22:19:32Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > [He often apologizes,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/interesting-article-about-questions-received-while-giving-tours-of-southern-plantations/723842/118) proclaims that he has learned something, and promises to do better next time. > > And then next thread, it’s the exact same act. I’ll hold off on the praise for his heartfelt apology. Again, wasn’t willing to read through all the previously posted threads, but the snippets did NOT generate much sympathy for Ace. At best, I’m damning with faint praise, because there are other posters here in the Pit who won’t even go as far as a single apology. Thus my feeling that perhaps they’re capable of learning, but until they get to the critical stage of thinking prior to posting opinions as facts they’re not going to earn any admiration. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-aceplace57/961183.md?page=3)