# Pitting ALL those who are Ok with a man watching a child being raped

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982 "2011-11-15T05:24:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/121 "2012-01-31T17:28:16Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> On classic Loveline, Adam Carolla used to mock people who claimed they were falsely accused of child molestation by asking if they were in a slapstick 70s sitcom where a child slipped nearby and fell on their dick. It was a good example of edgy, transgressive humor.
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> Starving Artist seems to think this _ **actually happens** _.

He doesn’t just think it happens sometimes, or could. He’s now claiming that he’s “proven” that intentional rape did not take place here for certain and that everyone should thus be “happy for the kid” that in his fact-free universe the kid was “only” nearly-buggered by a creepy old naked man.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/122 "2012-01-31T18:49:09Z")

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> [@Huerta88](#):
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> He doesn’t just think it happens sometimes, or could. He’s now claiming that he’s “proven” that intentional rape did not take place here for certain and that everyone should thus be “happy for the kid” that in his fact-free universe the kid was “only” nearly-buggered by a creepy old naked man.

Which, when you think about it, might in some ways be _worse_ for the kid… if there was a definite rape (and if anyone had had the sense to actually investigate at the time) there would be some pretty obvious physical evidence; blood, tissue tearing, semen, etc. The fact that an attempt to rape may have been interrupted before it could occur means the child was _still_ violated, only he has a lot less evidence to prove it. As horrific as rape is, there might be empowerment to be had through physical evidence and prosecution. This kid might have been burdened with all of the trauma, and none of the little power the situation might have left him with.

And no adult cared enough to help him - McQueary just walked away - can you imagine the trust issues after that? It makes me weep.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/123 "2012-01-31T22:34:53Z")

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Actually I believe McQueary has stated that he stopped the assault. The one that SA is arguing didn’t happen.

“In the email, dated Nov. 8, McQueary said, “I did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room,” The Morning Call reported.”

> **[Police: No record of McQueary reporting assault](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/7243505/police-say-no-record-penn-state-mike-mcqueary-reporting-assault)**
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> A central Pennsylvania police chief says his department did not receive reports from a then-Penn State graduate assistant related to an allegation of child sexual abuse against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/124 "2012-02-01T00:41:56Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Of course we were raised in a time when parents disciplined their children, schools required you to pass tests to advance to the next grade, and the vast majority of kids had two parents at home teaching them proper values. Unfortunately, the counter-culture revolution and its attendant social liberalism came along and “fixed” all that.

Yes, you were raised in the same time that Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky were, with the same “proper values”. We already know that. Then the social liberals started to object to child rape - “unfortunately” as you put it, and that is a _bad thing_? And it’s \*everyone else \*who’s “insane”, not you? And you’re even quoting Rush Limbaugh as a source of moral authority to support your perversion?

Get help.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/125 "2012-02-01T02:06:16Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Yes, you were raised in the same time that Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky were, with the same “proper values”. We already know that. Then the social liberals started to object to child rape - “unfortunately” as you put it, and that is a _bad thing_? And it’s \*everyone else \*who’s “insane”, not you? And you’re even quoting Rush Limbaugh as a source of moral authority to support your perversion?
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> Get help.

Yeah, a fat, loud-mouthed drug addict with what, three ex-wives?

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-those-who-are-ok-with-a-man-watching-a-child-being-raped/602982/126 "2012-02-01T02:32:47Z")

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> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> For all we know the kid could have slipped and Sandusky caught him just as the kid put his hands against the wall to steady himself, at which point McQueary looked around the corner and saw what he mistook for anal sex.

Sandusky probably just used his penis to catch him because he couldn’t move his hands down quick enough - fortunately for both of them he was able to stabilize the boy and avoid a nasty fall.

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