# Pitting all you Reagan bashers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970 "2004-06-06T16:55:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/201 "2004-06-12T13:56:45Z")

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> [@Desmostylus](#):
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> … is often accused of copying his material from elsewhere.

Where else can you copy material?

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/202 "2004-06-12T14:07:34Z")

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> [@grienspace](#):
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> Where else can you copy material?

From here? Fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/203 "2004-06-12T14:12:58Z")

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**Desmo** , have you not been getting fucked lately?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/204 "2004-06-12T15:04:40Z")

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I tried copying from myself once, but got all confused about attribution.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/205 "2004-06-12T17:39:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Sam Stone is often accused of copying his material from elsewhere. If he does, it’s reprehensible. But it’s not an excuse for you to do the same thing.

You mean other than copying a snippet for a cite? I have never copied material from elsewhere and posted it as my own. I may have rephrased material that I’ve read and agree with, but everyone does that. The closest I ever came to copying material was to post a bulleted list from an official CPA press release on Iraq. This was totally fair because A) the press release was in the public domain, and B) I didn’t just cut and paste it anyway - I wrote the message in my own words, simply repeating the bulleted points.

I think you are confusing the constant refrain that I ‘repeat Republican talking points’ for plagairism. And I do repeat Republican talking points sometimes - just as Democrats on this board repeat Democrat talking points. I find it weird that I get criticized for this. If John Kerry puts out a press release claiming that Bush did X, you know there will be a thread about it soon. And no one accuses the participants of ‘repeating Democratic talking points’.

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**Author:** ![cmason32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@cmason32](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmason32)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/206 "2004-06-12T20:15:18Z")

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Apparently, Reagan is residing in [hell](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jun2004/Reagan_In_Hell_6-7-2004.pdf). Who said Reagan bashing was solely a liberal activty?

[http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg](http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg)

Quite the misnamed .jpg, no?

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/207 "2004-06-12T20:55:16Z")

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RE:[http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg](http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg)

I like how the losers holding the surprisingly subtle “No Left Turn” and “No Turn on Red” signs won’t even show their cowardly faces.  
Typical.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/208 "2004-06-12T20:59:38Z")

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> [@neofishboy](#):
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> …I like how the losers holding the surprisingly subtle “No Left Turn” and “No Turn on Red” signs won’t even show their cowardly faces.  
> Typical.

Good 'un. 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/209 "2004-06-12T23:46:08Z")

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You mean the Phelps clan actually went through with it? I’ll be damned-I’m surprised they didn’t end up in the ER.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/210 "2004-06-13T00:18:10Z")

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> [@cmason32](#):
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> Apparently, Reagan is residing in [hell](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jun2004/Reagan_In_Hell_6-7-2004.pdf). Who said Reagan bashing was solely a liberal activty?
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> [http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg](http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6817/liberalsfuneral1.jpg)
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> Quite the misnamed .jpg, no?

Who knew Fred Phelps and Larry Kramer would ever share the same sentiments?

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**Author:** ![altiod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@altiod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/altiod)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/211 "2004-06-13T00:33:50Z")

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Reagan has just issued a press release from hell:

[Hear him scream.](http://www.home.earthlink.net/~wyvernss/index.html)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/212 "2004-06-13T01:46:04Z")

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Desmo, I’m just as confused as to your point as Sam is. Like him, I’m missing the reprehensibility factor here.

We cite _facts_; I’ve never been aware of the need to cite the source of an argument, unless it’s such a deep argument that its originator’s insight deserves credit. But if it’s the usual ‘somebody else made this argument somewhere else’ sorta thing, then citing the source of the _argument_ is optional. If someone, be it Sam or myself or whoever, is able to put the argument in their own words and defend it with their own mental resources, it’s that person’s argument, for purposes of debate here at the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-all-you-reagan-bashers/248970/213 "2004-06-13T23:11:48Z")

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> [@Hamish](#):
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> The race to eulogize the man as some sort of hero is terrifying, and revisionism at its worst. Ron Reagan, the great actor, who spent his political career playing one of his war heroes on the world stage, is now playing the role of the great leader and hero president, gone too soon. And it’s still not true.

Andrea: Unhappy is the land that has no heroes.  
Galileo: No, Andrea, unhappy is the land that needs a hero.

– Bertolt Brecht, _Galileo_

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