# Pitting Amateur Barbarian **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554 "2015-07-08T08:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/61 "2015-07-10T02:18:03Z")
I had so much hope. D-, thread title wasted. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/62 "2015-07-11T02:12:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Not a motto, just a statement of fact. Except for all the fucking snow. That finally drove me out. To a place where there are still a lot of New Englanders around. 😉 Boca Raton? Tampa? ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/63 "2015-07-12T03:55:27Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Amateur Barbarian is an insufferable, pedantic nitwit who believes he is a celebrity and _this_ is the pitting he gets. > > Life ain’t fair, Ma. Ain’t that the truth? He’s a delusional jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/64 "2015-07-13T02:17:42Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Amateur Barbarian is an insufferable, pedantic nitwit who believes he is a celebrity and _this_ is the pitting he gets. > > Life ain’t fair, Ma. Is he the one who keeps alluding to the great fame and esteem he enjoys in real life because he’s the foremost expert in something-or-other? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/65 "2015-07-13T02:31:14Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Is he the one who keeps alluding to the great fame and esteem he enjoys in real life because he’s the foremost expert in something-or-other? That’s the one! I particularly liked a few weeks ago when he cited an “expert’s” article to back up one of his arguments. He was the “expert.” I think of it as a lazy man’s sock puppet. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/66 "2015-07-13T13:40:51Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The doublet “New England” ceased meaning New + England a long time ago. It’s essentially a one-word phrase (pronounced new-ING-land). It means the 6 states that comprise the area. Any reference to England; proper, is in the imagination of the speaker. 🙂 Isn’t it more proper to say “6 provinces” … Canada doesn’t have states _per se_. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/67 "2015-07-13T14:06:23Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > That’s the one! I particularly liked a few weeks ago when he cited an “expert’s” article to back up one of his arguments. He was the “expert.” I think of it as a lazy man’s sock puppet. Anyone want to back this up with a linky? > [@watchwolf49](#): > > Isn’t it more proper to say “6 provinces” … Canada doesn’t have states _per se_. Who the fuck said anything about Canada? 😕 New England is a region in the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/68 "2015-07-13T14:12:13Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Anyone want to back this up with a linky? [Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18459326) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/69 "2015-07-13T14:17:15Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Anyone want to back this up with a linky? [Here you go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18459326&postcount=10) He got called on it a few hours later, and offered a pretty [half-assed apology](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18460842&postcount=40), that while he didn’t disclose that it was his paper, he never claimed it _wasn’t_ his paper either. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/70 "2015-07-13T14:22:57Z")
Thanks! Also: _dang_! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/71 "2015-07-13T14:46:22Z")
[QUOTE=An Gadai] New England is worse than old England. New England sucks a big one. [/QUOTE] Clearly the only rational thing to do is to take over some place halfway across the globe and rename it “Newer England”. Or possibly “Latest England, Get In While It’s Hot”. And while we’re on the subject, can we rename it Oldfoundland ? We’ve found quite a bit of new stuff since. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/72 "2015-07-13T15:38:54Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Who the fuck said anything about Canada? 😕 New England is a region in the United States. I think they may be trying to humorlessly imply that the New England states are more like Canada. Or something. I could be wrong. ## Did I say “humorlessly”? I meant “humorously” Really, I did. In many ways, AB reminds me of the late Q.E.D. Often right, often wrong, often somewhere in between. But almost always with a smug condescending attitude. Typical Doper, IOW. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/73 "2015-07-13T15:39:55Z")
And who the hell is Percy? ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/74 "2015-07-13T16:49:00Z")
The one and only [Percy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8raabzZNqw) worth knowing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/75 "2015-07-13T18:23:03Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > The one and only [Percy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8raabzZNqw) worth knowing. > > 😃 [Beg to differ.](http://blackadder.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_Percy_Percy) ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/76 "2015-07-13T21:15:47Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > That’s the one! I particularly liked a few weeks ago when he cited an “expert’s” article to back up one of his arguments. He was the “expert.” I think of it as a lazy man’s sock puppet. I disagree with this assessment of what he did. What he said - assuming Frank’s link was the correct one - was “_This paper makes a complete and coherent argument for …_.” That’s not the same thing as a cite to authority based on a claim that an “expert” had backed him up. He was simply directing people to some arguments that he thought were “complete and coherent”. I don’t see anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/77 "2015-07-14T11:38:06Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I disagree with this assessment of what he did. > > What he said - assuming Frank’s link was the correct one - was “_This paper makes a complete and coherent argument for …_.” That’s not the same thing as a cite to authority based on a claim that an “expert” had backed him up. He was simply directing people to some arguments that he thought were “complete and coherent”. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Thus confirming that you are a drooling moron. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/78 "2015-07-14T11:50:54Z")
Any truth to what people are saying about Ray Bradury’s camp being behind this pitting? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/79 "2015-07-14T12:27:47Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Thus confirming that you are a drooling moron. That’ll probably get you a bit more popular with the cool kids. Good luck … ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/80 "2015-07-14T12:37:36Z")
I’ve generally liked **AB** as a poster from my limited interaction with him (whether agreeing or disagreeing with him), but in my view citing your own paper as a “complete and coherent argument…” without mentioning that you’re the author is as troubling as it would be if people were looking for novels and I linked to mine saying “check these out, these are great!” without saying that they were my books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554.md?page=5)